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Jul 25, 2020 00:17
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I’m still new to this, but thankfully I’ve already received several offers. For men, making an offer costs money, and I understand that they’re taking time out of their busy schedules to meet, so when I go on a date, I make an effort with not only my appearance, but also my choice of words and mannerisms. However, the man I met this time said he “hadn’t taken a bath,” and his clothes and overall appearance were far from clean. After dinner, he invited me to continue the relationship, but much of his conversation consisted of vulgar jokes, and I wasn’t attracted to him, so I declined. He then said, “I booked the room intending to go through with it from the start,” and “The staff told me that an adult relationship (intimate) would be fine today.” I’m Type C, but my understanding of Type C was that I would be okay with it from the first meeting if we clicked and the chemistry was right. Is that understanding incorrect? I’m worried I may have given men the wrong impression, and I’m considering changing my type to B…
This time, I was really happy to receive the offer and made a real effort to prepare, so I was very disappointed that the man hadn’t done the same. I also feel somehow bad for the staff member who helped arrange the offer for me…
Sorry for the long post.
I’m still having trouble sorting out my feelings, and halfway through I lost track of what I was even trying to ask. lol (Sorry if this was confusing…)
Still, I hope that after reading this, more men and women will remember to be considerate when meeting and observe at least the basic rules of etiquette.
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Other
I’m BB7, a male member.
I’m sure none of the respondents here are like this, but based on what I’ve heard from various women, there do seem to be some male members who have a serious lack of empathy and imagination toward others, along with severely underdeveloped communication and relationship-building skills.
It’s unfortunate that you happened to run into someone like that. They probably make up around 5% of the membership, but the remaining 95% are ordinary—or gentlemen (including those only pretending to be)—so please don’t worry.
As I was writing this, though, I started wondering… Does that mean it wouldn’t be unusual for around 5% of female members to be like that too? Would they not be accepted? But if they’re attractive or have a large bust, maybe they would be accepted?
Anyway, getting back to the point, I don’t think this was a case of the man not making an effort, looking down on you, or not having any expectations. He probably meant no harm—that’s simply who he is. I think he would have acted the same way with anyone he met.
For both men and women, people who don’t mean any harm can be the most difficult to deal with…
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
President Maezawa here from the club office.
> I understood Type C to mean that, if we hit it off, intimacy could be possible from the very first meeting. Is that understanding incorrect?
I believe your understanding is correct.
For clarity, I think we explained to both men and women that Type C indicates a fairly proactive attitude, with about a 50% chance of being okay with an adult relationship from the first meeting.
In this case, it sounds like you would have been willing from the first day as long as he seemed clean and didn’t engage in vulgar conversation, so I think anyone would agree that C was the right type.
> He told me, “I booked the room intending that from the start,” and “The staff told me an adult relationship would be okay today.”
There’s no way the staff would have told him that it was guaranteed, so I think he said those things because he was determined to turn it into an adult relationship.
With Type C, men understand that the chance is around 50%. Even so, most men still hope to somehow turn the meeting into an adult relationship. Since they made the offer because they liked your photos, it’s only natural that they would hope for that.
Still, if this was your first offer, I can understand why it may have caught you off guard.
> I’m wondering whether I should change to Type B…
If you’re not confident that you can smoothly handle a man who comes on too strongly, I think changing to B would be better.
However, the staff will ask why you changed, and there may also be feedback from the man saying something like, “She was Type C but turned me down,” as if you had done something wrong. (Of course, you did nothing wrong at all(笑).)
If you change to B immediately afterward, the staff might even wonder whether the man was right and you had misrepresented your dating type.
So rather than changing to B right away, I suggest explaining exactly what happened to the branch and saying something like:
“This was extremely difficult for me to turn down. Personally, I’m okay with an adult relationship from the first meeting, but if someone hasn’t showered, looks unclean, and makes far too many sexual jokes, I find it very difficult to enter into an adult relationship with them.
Would it be okay for me to change to Type B so that it’s easier for me to decline when necessary?”
If you consult them that way, the staff are less likely to misunderstand you, whether you remain Type C or change to B.
This time turned out to be an unfortunate encounter, but around 40% of the men are good people, so I hope you’ll look forward to meeting someone like that.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a column writer.
I ended up imagining someone like “the old guy from Tsutenkaku,” one of Reiji Nakagawa’s impressions—a filthy old man with a beat-up cap, rotten teeth, and air hissing through his teeth whenever he talks.
Surely no one’s actually that bad, right?
Don’t worry. Even with C, it’s perfectly fine to cut half of them loose on the very first day. Still, it’s probably best to report it to the club.
Other
I’m Rin, a female member.
That sounds like it was really difficult.
I guess even saying that the men women most want to avoid are those who are unhygienic wouldn’t get through to someone like him.
Getting your first offer is incredibly nerve-racking, but you also feel grateful and excited that someone reached out to you. It can be such a thrill.
But someone like this is extremely rare. Give the club feedback—just the facts—and ask them to add: “He doesn’t pay attention to his appearance” and “He seems to be expecting something after dinner.”
Don’t worry, you’ll be fine. Most of them are genuinely wonderful men who take care to freshen their breath and always smell nice.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m a male member, Paper Airplane.
Not bathing and showing up in dirty clothes is pretty unacceptable.
These days, even highway service areas have comfortable facilities for washing your hair.
It’s hard to believe someone would be fine going on a date without even taking a shower beforehand… There can’t be many people like that… probably…
Other
I’m Gaku, a male member.
I think your understanding is correct. Based on Maezawa’s answer, the likelihood of her being Type C is 50% as well—or at least, I think that’s what he said.
It’s hard to say what the “correct” interpretation is, but in this case, if you read the message as written, I believe your understanding is right.
That said, there are always people who misunderstand things in any setting. Maezawa will probably explain it himself, but I think it would be best to report it to Universe.
🏅 手コキ評論家
入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
It’s Joe.
What a terrible experience. And your understanding of the situation isn’t wrong in the slightest. I can’t honestly say I know what the other male members are like, but I think the man you met was an extreme exception. Or at least, I hope he was.
That said, as for some advice: even if you stay with Type B, there are still risks like this. Female members may not know this, but on the profiles men can view, staff will often write things like, “This woman is prepared.” Especially when she’s Type C. A man who sees that will take it to mean only one thing.
From the way you wrote your question, I think you’re prepared as well. But in my opinion, being prepared doesn’t simply mean taking off your underwear on the day you meet someone. Firmly refusing a man who doesn’t respect your wishes is also a form of preparedness. Please put your hand over your heart and ask yourself once more whether you truly have that resolve. If you do, I think it’s fine to remain Type C.
I hope your next encounter is a wonderful one.
There are probably many definitions of a gentleman, but I think being able to endure disappointment with dignity is one of them. Losing your temper and saying, “I already booked the room,” is about as uncool as it gets. Speaking as a reminder to myself: “Have some shame!” Oh, I suppose he isn’t reading this anyway.
Regarding Mac’s comment—
I have no disagreement with Mac’s definition of a gentleman: “Someone who keeps himself well-groomed, never embarrasses a woman, and knows how to escort her properly.” However, for someone like Joe, who is far from being a true gentleman, it sounds like a definition based on the assumption that things will go successfully—or should I say, lead to intimacy? I think your true gentlemanly character is tested by how you behave when you’re turned down.
When I said “enduring disappointment with dignity,” I had the final scene of *Casablanca* in mind. Maybe it’s because I watched it the other day while enjoying a woman’s F-cup breasts, but the message hit me even harder(笑). Come to think of it, *Casablanca* was made in 1942. While Japan was shouting, “One hundred million, become a ball of fire and advance!” they were saying, “Here’s looking at you, kid.” No wonder we lost.