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Jul 8, 2020 14:35
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What exactly does this mean?
Does it mean having extensive knowledge and understanding of culture and the arts?
With all due respect, neither the staff member who interviewed me nor any of the men who made me an offer seemed to have that kind of background, so maybe that’s not what it means.
It also seems different from academic credentials or etiquette, which makes it a difficult word to define.
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🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a columnist.
When the word “cultured” comes up at a dating club, it usually doesn’t mean, “I want to meet a cultured woman.”
More often, it seems to be used as a complaint about a female member who didn’t indulge some painfully boring old guy’s trivia and self-centered ramblings and treated him coldly: “She has no culture!”
That’s just my personal impression, though.
Two totally unreasonable complaints from shitty old men came in today, and I had to deal with them on the phone for over two hours in total, so I’m a little worked up lol.
The first one was: “No one clearly explained the terms of the contract! Isn’t this fraud? Shouldn’t you have explained it properly? I’ll sue you by name! And I’ll write about how terrible you are on my blog too!”
The second was from an old guy who repeatedly sexually harassed the woman handling his account and then got treated coldly: “What kind of internal training do your employees receive? Your customer service manners are terrible! I’ll get a politician and a lawyer I know to sue you by name! I’ll make you regret this!”
When the weather starts getting warmer, weird old men really do perk up.
That’s true. An undeniable fact.
The statement “She has no culture!” carries a similar nuance to that second complaint.
Other
I’m a male member, BB7.
When it comes to “cultivation” or “education,” few people understand it strictly as defined in the dictionary. Everyone may have their own opinions and theories about what “being cultured” means.
So perhaps your definition of “cultured” is valid, while your partner’s definition is valid for them.
Personally, I think someone is well-cultured if they have knowledge across a reasonably broad range of fields—politics, economics, history, literature, the arts, and so on—and can express their own opinions or perspectives on those subjects.
That said, in the context of this club, I feel “cultivation” probably means something more like good manners.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here as well.
I was wondering where “common use” had been coming up so often—and this is where the epicenter was, huh? (lol)
I’ll leave the topic of cultural knowledge to the other respondents, but I should point out that Universe’s post-date feedback form has the following five categories, and “cultural knowledge” isn’t one of them:
【Appearance】
【Date experience】
【Personality】
【Manners】
【Overall】
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
I think that, when it comes to “cultivation” in the club, it means being able to have a conversation with your partner when you meet after receiving an offer.
To have a good conversation, you need at least some basic knowledge to draw on. You never know what the other person will want to talk about, so I think it’s important to be able to respond in a way that they can generally agree with.
It’s even better if you can add a little humor or a joke here and there.
And when you don’t understand what they’re talking about, you may also need the conversational skill to have them explain the parts you don’t understand in a way that makes sense to you.
Now that I’ve gotten this far, I’m starting to think I may be saying the same thing as Basil(笑).
Other
I’m Rin, a female member.
It’s very difficult to define, and I think it’s something people interpret differently depending on the time, situation, and person. General education and what’s considered important at a club also seem slightly different.
If staff were expected to evaluate this during an interview, I feel it would be difficult in terms of both the time available and their level of experience to have the right criteria and skills.
If I had to give examples:
Being punctual, lining up your shoes, sitting properly, making eye contact during conversation, saying thank you, saying “itadakimasu” and “gochisousama”…
Having conversations and behaving appropriately for the situation and setting?
Listening carefully to what the other person says and responding appropriately.
They’re all basic things, but perhaps it comes down to being able to do ordinary things properly.
Addendum:
In my previous question, I actually used the word “education” myself—sorry! That’s the kind of meaning I intended here.
Other
I’m Saito, a column writer♪
Can you greet people properly?
Can you say thank you?
It seems so basic, but there really are people of the opposite sex who can’t even manage that much.
Men who immediately get defensive, for example.
When I meet someone for an hour over tea, give her ¥50,000, and she doesn’t even say thank you, I find myself reflecting that my eye for the women I’d like to set up has gotten a little cloudy lately…
If I were a woman, I might be thinking, “I still have a long way to go,” if I wasn’t receiving offers from well-educated men.
A long time ago, when I was interviewing someone for a salon—another type of business run by Universe—I wondered whether the issue wasn’t a lack of education, but simply a lack of experience, so I took the staff member to Ginza.
https://thesalon.tokyo/blog/169/
That brings back memories.
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m a male member named Basil.
To me, a woman’s refinement in the club world means having broad knowledge and conversational skills in areas like politics, economics, culture, the arts, and science, as well as being able to adapt to the man she’s with.
On top of that, she should have good manners, common sense, and the poise expected of a woman—something like the courtesans of old Yoshiwara.
Very few women possess all that, and those who do probably have no need to register with a club in the first place.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
If there are any truly cultured people in this world,
I’d like to meet them.
But maybe everyone is like Mr. Watanabe…
At least, anyone involved with the club…
No—whether male or female, everyone is consumed by desire.