I’m BB7, a male member.
If you say something like, “I get at least 20,” or “I usually get around 15,” and then, if he backs off, add, “But for you, I’d be totally fine with 10,” there might be one man in ten who happily falls for it.
I’m Saito, a column writer ♪
Sure. If you contact the club, they might be able to put you in touch...
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here as well.
Among the men I’ve interviewed, some have said things like:
“If I really like her, I’ll normally pay up to ¥80,000 in allowance. But when she asks for ¥100,000, that’s tough. If I’m thinking about continuing the arrangement, it would be difficult to keep seeing someone who expects more than ¥80,000.”
And yet, we also hear about cases like someone having a ¥600,000 monthly arrangement—or situations that later turn into trouble.
I don’t know how many times they meet in a month with a ¥600,000 monthly arrangement, but assuming four or five times, that works out to ¥120,000 per meeting if they meet five times.
That was a long preface, but an allowance of ¥100,000 is realistic. Some women actually receive that amount.
However, it’s less about negotiation tactics and more about whether the man genuinely wants to be with her because of her appearance, profession, enjoyable conversation, intelligence, or the feeling that she’s someone he normally wouldn’t be able to meet.
In that case, she can simply say, “I’d like ¥100,000. Would that be okay?” and the man will pay it.
So what should women who don’t fit that description do?
I don’t think there’s a negotiation technique that works with every man, and it would be extremely difficult.
Maybe it’s about as difficult as passing the bar exam.
First, while having dinner, find out what kind of woman he likes and try to become closer to that ideal.
To do that, end things after dinner on the first day—make it dinner only (no intimacy). Ask what kind of clothes he likes, and dress closer to his preferences the next time you meet.
During the date, devote yourself completely to him. Become a thoughtful woman. Pay attention to your manners and behavior.
You could mention that another man once gave you ¥50,000 for dinner only, saying that it surprised you. Then add something like, “But I like you because you’re more of a gentleman.”
You might also say that you don’t feel comfortable taking things further after dinner with other men, and that you want someone who treats you well. Then imply that someone like that would probably pay around ¥100,000.
But also say that you like him, so the amount isn’t important to you.
If he then invites you to an adult relationship (intimate), wait to see how much allowance he offers. If he doesn’t give a specific amount, or if it’s ¥90,000 or less, say, “I have an early morning tomorrow, so I’m sorry, but I need to leave early today,” and go home.
Make sure to arrange your next date before leaving.
Would that be the general idea behind the negotiation?
That said, the basic prerequisite is determining whether he has enough financial flexibility to pay ¥100,000. From the moment you meet him, you need to check whether he seems financially comfortable by looking at what he’s wearing and how he carries himself.
Still, rather than becoming fixated on a ¥100,000 allowance, I think it’s more beneficial to see more men who are enjoyable to spend time with, kind, able to share interesting and useful insights, or willing to take you to wonderful restaurants.
Those positive aspects can enrich your life and, in turn, make you more attractive. Once you become more appealing, I feel that men who want to pay ¥100,000 will eventually appear.
P.S. Saito-san said, “Sure,” so please contact Maezawa using the form below.
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I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
That’s a good question.
To answer you directly, I think Megumi, Romane, and Flag Maker are right.
But when I take the circumstances of the other female members at the club into consideration, I think the points made by “Papa-Katsu Gentleman” are also spot-on.
From the perspective of an actual relationship, I feel it probably comes down to what Paper Airplane and Rin said. As Saito-san also mentioned in response to someone’s question before, consistency is what matters.
In the end, that’s how you’re likely to receive the most allowance（笑）
I’m Basil, a male member.
¥100,000 a month is fairly realistic, but that would be a high bar for a single meeting. It’s less about how you negotiate and more about how appealing you are.
Based on your post, I don’t find you appealing at all, and most men, myself included, would probably pass even at ¥100,000 a month.
I’m Flagmaker, a column writer.
Just say it plainly, as if it were perfectly normal: “For an adult relationship, I ask for 100,000 yen or more.”
Those who are willing to pay will pay. Your success rate depends on how appealing you are.
I’m Rin, a female member.
This is Rin, nearly falling out of her chair when she read this during her work break.
Being assertive is a good thing.
I’m jealous.
But before asking how to negotiate, shouldn’t you work on your appearance, of course—but also your education, compassion, consideration, respect, and gratitude?
Your manners, the atmosphere you give off… and the effort you put into improving yourself, too.
Maybe I’m just bitter because, even if the world turned upside down, I’d never have the courage—or the qualities—to negotiate for that kind of money.
I’m a male member, and my username is Paper Airplane.
Recently, after getting everyone’s advice in the question box, I’ve started discussing my own terms for continuing the arrangement instead of simply agreeing to whatever the girl asks for.
For example, even if she says 100,000 yen, I explain what my terms would be if we continued—such as offering only a fraction of that, even for a “black” girl I’m seeing regularly—and then we talk it over.
Otherwise, things may be fine for the first meeting, but I won’t feel like continuing the relationship. So I think it often benefits both sides to discuss the terms upfront.
If a woman ultimately wants a generous allowance, I think it’s smarter not to ask for too much herself.
Girls who are genuinely attractive know that men will often willingly pay more without being asked. In most cases, girls who name a high amount simply haven’t had much experience and are only valued to the extent of that price range.
In Kansai, when a girl asks for 70,000 yen or more, I take it as a sign that she’s probably a “one-and-done girl” who won’t be invited to continue the relationship—unless she’s simply new and inexperienced.
P.S. A belated thank-you
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who answered my previous question about allowances. m(_ _)m
I feel much clearer about things now, and since then, I’ve started discussing the terms for continuing the relationship.
I’ve also come to realize that talking about the allowance amount can be a good thing.
Rather than simply saying “X amount” for both sides, it helps reveal each person’s thoughts, circumstances, lifestyle, expectations, and what they can offer. I feel it gives you a foundation for building more common ground and finding ways to fit together better.
The girl I’ve met since then accepted terms that were half of what the original questioner was offering, but we’ve already met five times and grown much closer.
Compared with meeting someone just once, meeting five times over about half a month…
Doesn’t that seem like it might not be such a bad deal?
