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Jun 24, 2020 19:15
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Most papa-katsu girls keep it hidden, but basically all of them have experience working in the nightlife industry.
When doing papa-katsu, we don’t carry designer bags or wear fancy accessories. We go in GU or other cheap clothes, don’t curl our hair, and keep our makeup really light.
Everyone does it.
Thanks for always letting yourselves be fooled.
Please keep being fooled from now on too, papas… ♥
I don’t think most of you notice.
But I’d like to ask you the opposite: have you ever noticed?
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Other
I’m BB7, a male member.
Saying, “All the girls work in nightlife,” is about as credible as saying, “All women are doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).”
It’s like making a huge fuss over COVID infections and deaths, even though the numbers are far lower than those for other illnesses, traffic accidents, suicides, or the flu.
🏅 手コキ評論家
入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
This is Joe, the columnist.
Even though I do enjoy coming in with a late take, it does feel a bit belated at this point. Still, with our usual members—including Paper Airplane—nearly all here, I’ll humbly offer my answer.
I had a feeling that might be the case, but was this middle-aged Joe fooled too? What a disappointment.
That said, this hopelessly late-to-the-party Joe has never met a woman I approached through Universe who wasn’t wearing at least one designer item, had her hair curled, and was wearing more than just light makeup. If anything, they were all walking showcases for designer brands, with hair curled so tightly you’d wonder, “Did you break it?” and makeup that made them look like completely different people.
Of course, there are exceptions, but I honestly wonder whether women like the questioner really make up the majority. If you don’t mind, I’d love to make you an offer.
I hope your relationship continues without the questioner’s true nature—or what might be called their “real self”—being found out.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here—I’ll answer this one too.
Reading this question—or what hardly even seems like a question—reminds me of a little kid saying:
“Buy me that toy!
Everyone has one.
I’m the only one who doesn’t.”
Then the parent responds:
“Who’s ‘everyone’?
Go on, tell me all their names.”
That kind of situation.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
I’m honored that you mentioned me in the question box in this way.
It makes me even happier than when I’m compared to someone like Mac—just a little, anyway. Thank you.
As you said, I think almost all the women have some experience working in the nightlife industry.
At my age, whether I meet a woman through a club or somewhere else, it’s only natural that she’ll have worked in nightlife.
Unfortunately, girls whose only work experience is a part-time job at McDonald’s for around ¥1,000 an hour aren’t attracted to me, and I can’t bring myself to approach them either…
These women chose clubs, which require even more resolve than nightlife work, so naturally they all have nightlife experience, right?
What I wanted to say wasn’t that anyone had been deceived, was deceiving someone, or hiding anything.
It’s simply that people are suited to different worlds and have different personalities.
I’ve also been taken to a hostess club once, and to a cabaret club two or three times, by friends, so I’ve “been there.”
And, well… those kinds of places are nothing but painful for me. Even just being there…
After two or three minutes, I want to escape. I don’t even want to breathe. Seriously. My friends are having a great time, but I’m just thinking…
“I never want to go there again.”
That’s what those places are like for me.
On the other hand, there are plenty of men who absolutely love those places, keep going back, and even take hostesses out for dinner.
So there’s nothing inherently wrong with them. They’re popular, in demand, and clearly a world that society needs.
And just as I feel that way, some women are able to keep working in that kind of environment, while others find it unbearable and simply aren’t suited to it.
Women who don’t fit in naturally gravitate toward quieter, more relaxed, private-room settings, such as men’s esthetic massage salons.
I’m simply the type who feels more comfortable in that kind of environment.
Clubs probably have both types of people, but because papa-katsu and clubs allow men and women to meet quietly one-on-one, more people prefer the calm, private-room-like “quiet” atmosphere over the lively, crowded “noisy” atmosphere with a certain number of people around.
What I wanted to convey is that people are simply divided into men who go to those places and men who don’t, and women who can work in those environments and women who can’t.
The noisy and the quiet are complete opposites, so people are suited to different worlds and belong in different environments.
Besides, clubs themselves are already very close to being professional territory. If you add a full-time hostess into the mix, it goes completely beyond that level.
I don’t know how much nightlife work you do, but if you’re a full-fledged night-work professional, it would be impossible to hide because of your working hours. If it’s only within the scope of a part-time job, though, it’s no different from any other job, so no one would find out—and there’s no particular need to hide it.
After all, I think everyone simply wants to avoid someone who’s too professional…
In my case, it would be easier and more natural to be with someone who understands that feeling of wanting to escape from such a place within two seconds.
It’s better when you’re compatible in terms of where you go, what you do, and what you talk about.
People who like noisy environments.
People who like quiet environments.
There are probably people somewhere in between, too.
And since many men and women prefer quiet environments, that’s why I answered in a way that suggested fewer of the stereotypical, full-time club hostesses from noisy environments would join.
If the person asking understands my feeling of wanting to escape within two seconds, she might be able to fool me—though there would be no need to. But if she doesn’t, it would be impossible… We wouldn’t even be able to breathe the same air.
P.S. Also, in hostess clubs and the adult-entertainment industry, if you find a big-spending regular, it’s possible to make ¥200,000 or ¥300,000 from dinner alone, and move several million yen in just a few meetings. Compared with that, clubs are a world worth only a few dozen times less.
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
> Most papa-katsu women have worked in the nightlife industry, even though most of them keep it hidden.
I’ve heard that before. Judging from what people say, it does seem to be fairly common.
Personally, I think it’s fine whatever someone has done in the past. When the two of you are together and seeing each other, it should be enough to face one another, have drinks, eat, talk, and be intimate. It’s a little sad if you can’t even look each other in the face.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a columnist.
This is an industry that makes money off men’s fantasies, so you really shouldn’t say things like that out loud.
That’s just an unspoken rule.
So shallow. Seriously, incredibly shallow.
Still, the fact that women this jaded show up is probably partly our fault as male members, too. They probably haven’t had many good encounters...
Even when an arrangement starts with both sides deceiving and being deceived, it can still lead to something good.
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Basil, a male member.
Are you a man who keeps getting deceived by women who work in the nightlife industry?
Your own experience isn’t the whole world. Please stop doing things that damage the club’s reputation.
Displaying something like this is exactly what they want, so why not hide it?
Other
I’m Rin, a female member.
When my children were in kindergarten, they used to say things like:
“Everyone has one.”
“Everyone’s doing it.”
They felt anxious unless they said that, and they had absolutely no confidence or basis for what they were saying. Even children eventually stop saying things like that.
You should grow up too.
Rather than thinking, “I managed to fool them,” wouldn’t you both be happier if you could be the person they truly want you to be?
Meg
Female
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🏅 修行の身
光と影
Age: 50s
👩 Female
Former Universe member
I’m Meg, a female member.
Could you please stop?
What kind of way is that to put it?!
To me, Kamihikoki is an incredibly handsome, mature gentleman—a total ideal papa (a male supporter)!!!