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Jun 9, 2020 10:34
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I go to a hotel on every first date.
I’ve met around 15 people over the past six months, but I’ve never turned down an adult relationship before, so I don’t know how to say no.
Is it okay to turn someone down even as a C-type member⁇
Some people go to the hotel without discussing the terms of the arrangement, so I don’t know when to turn them down or what to say.
I’d really appreciate it if someone could teach me a good way to say no (;_;)
6 answers
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Basil, a male member.
Fifteen people in six months—and you didn’t turn down a single one? That’s impressive.
I can usually get a sense during dinner—just a gut feeling—that things probably won’t work out with someone. So in my case, I’d actually prefer it if she just turned me down directly.
If she uses her period or not feeling well as an excuse without making plans for next time, it actually feels more dishonest.
Other
I’m Marika, a female member.
In a sense, I’m also what Romane calls a “person-to-avoid hunter.”
What you and a man I met before are saying is basically the same thing. In short: “She wasn’t even that beautiful, yet she asked for 80, so I turned her down myself.”
From the man’s perspective, he can reject her by saying, “You’re asking for 80?” without hurting his pride. And from the woman’s side, it’s best to give the impression that you didn’t actually reject him—it’s just that the terms didn’t work out, so there was nothing you could do.
Though I’ve never tried it myself.
If he agrees to that, I suppose your only options are to accept it, resigning yourself to the situation, or say you’re sorry and run.
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Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flagmaker, a column writer.
I’ve had experience with what Mac-san calls “branding yourself.”
Women like that always make sure to confirm the amount—or give the impression that they’re deliberately playing hard to get (maybe?).
Example 1:
“Are you okay with what comes after this?”
“Hmm… I mean, I’m okay with it, but…”
“What’s wrong?”
“My allowance is ¥XX, so are you still okay with that?”
Example 2:
“Are you okay with what comes after this? I was thinking of an allowance of around ¥XX.”
“Hmm…”
“Is that not okay?”
“Hmm… Yeah, that’s fine! I’m okay with it ♡”
Somehow, I feel like that initial “Hmm…” is effective.
As for the reason behind the “Hmm…,” I think it can be used afterward in all sorts of convenient ways.
For example, she could say, “I don’t usually accept that allowance. But you’re special, XX-san ♡,” to make the other person feel good.
Or she could say, “I was worried you might think I’m too expensive,” which prompts him to say, “Not at all!” Then the allowance gets fixed at a higher amount, making it less likely that he’ll try to negotiate it down later.
It’s a good way to turn someone down too. For example:
“I’m a Type C, but once, I had to turn a man down because I wasn’t feeling well, and he got angry. It was an awful experience.”
Then, after waiting for him to say something like, “Wow, that’s terrible,” she could add:
“Actually… I’m not feeling well today either… I’ve been worried that you might get angry too if I told you.”
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Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Joe, a columnist.
On the other hand, I’ve never taken my pants off first on a first meeting, so I don’t know how to make that kind of move. What I don’t understand is not knowing how to turn someone down. A simple “no” should be enough.
Of course, being rejected isn’t exactly pleasant, but real manliness is putting on a strained smile, saying “What a shame,” and putting her in a taxi. Naturally, you should slip her the taxi fare too. Incidentally, “manliness” here means “stoically pretending you’re fine.” Unfortunately, since joining Universe Club, Joe’s gotten much better at that. I could almost cry.
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お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the Business Planning Office here.
> Is it okay to turn someone down even if I’m a C type??
C types are generally people who feel there’s about a 50% chance of entering an adult relationship (intimate) on the first day, so it’s perfectly fine for one in two men to be turned down.
That said, most men are overconfident. While they think the chances are 50% for others, many believe they personally have a 90% chance, so turning them down may be a little difficult.
> Could you tell me a good way to turn someone down? (;_;)
There isn’t really a perfect way, but Mac once wrote that saying, “I suddenly got my period,” might work well, and I also feel that’s probably the safest option.
However, some men may say they’re fine with it even if you’re on your period.
In that case, you could say something like, “I’m not feeling well either. Could we do this another time?” and part ways for the day.
Then later, send a message on LINE or something along the lines of, “I gave it some thought, and I’m sorry,” to turn him down.
That seems like an easier way to handle it.
P.S. As some people have suggested, turning someone down by quoting a very high allowance is another option.
For example, “I’m looking for ¥200,000, though… sorry.”
However, the club will hear about that.
They may think, “This woman is seriously mistaken.”
And if another man contacts the club saying, “I’m thinking of making her an offer—does she have any bad reviews?” some staff members might say, “Apparently she wants ¥200,000, so you’d better avoid her.” That possibility worries me.
So, as usual, after turning someone down by quoting a high amount, it’s probably safer to tell the club:
“When I turn someone down because I don’t feel we’re compatible, I sometimes intentionally quote a high amount so that the other person will turn me down instead.”
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会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m a male member who goes by Paper Airplane.
With Type C, if both people are on the same page, things may progress to a hotel, so it can be difficult for the man to turn down going to one—or choose not to make the invitation.
With online arrangements, you can ask in advance how much allowance she expects and confirm whether dinner only is okay, so there have been cases where I didn’t invite her to a hotel.
As for when to decline or communicate your terms:
After dinner, while you’re heading to the taxi or car—or, if you’re driving, after getting into your own car:
“Since this is through the club, would it be okay if I asked about your allowance?”
If you’re not comfortable with the conversation or simply don’t click, go to the restroom during dinner and, as Mac mentioned:
“I suddenly got my period and I’m not feeling well… My periods are really rough…”