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Jun 4, 2020 22:23
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I’m still seeing some of them long-term. Everyone has different schedules, but I’ve been enjoying my time with them.
The most recent man I met for the first time kept emphasizing how wealthy and financially comfortable he was, yet our very first date was at a restaurant where the bill was only around 3,000–4,000 yen per person.
He apparently liked me more than anyone else he had ever offered to meet—though it may have just been lip service—and from the second date onward, he didn’t make reservations. We would simply wander around and go into somewhere on the spot.
I do sometimes go to reasonably priced restaurants with the men I’m still seeing, and once we get comfortable with each other, we may decide where to go on the spot. I’m not insisting on expensive places, but if someone is trying to win me over, I can’t help wishing he would put in a little more effort—at least before he’s reeled me in—such as planning the date course.
(Even in regular dating, I’m touched and get butterflies when a man takes the time to think about where we should go ⭐︎)
Since I’m a Type C, I have of course had arrangements like that from the very first meeting before, but with this particular man, we’re currently doing dinner only (no intimacy).
Am I becoming jaded because I’ve gotten too used to the club, as they say…?
I know it isn’t good to compare him with other men, but perhaps I just happened to meet men who always planned the date in advance and went the extra mile to make me happy…?
(When I think about it, they were all men who added to my allowance from the first meeting, brought souvenirs, or even gave me gifts.)
I’m truly grateful to the men who take the time to think things through for me, and I know I’m being picky, but I wanted to hear what others think.
6 answers
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Basil, a male member.
Maybe he prefers enjoying the everyday rather than seeking something out of the ordinary. Alternatively, if he really has money, he may be testing whether you could have a serious relationship—or how much luxury you expect.
If you’re looking for a more extravagant lifestyle, you can simply end the relationship.
Other
I’m Saito, the column writer♪
I think a man’s choice of restaurants and his usual patterns of behavior are a reflection of his everyday life.
Being wealthy doesn’t necessarily mean he always goes to Michelin-starred restaurants.
In my case, I own several cars, but I mainly drive a Prius. It’s a car that no one dislikes, no matter who they are or the situation.
If you drive an expensive car, people can quickly figure out where you are, saying things like, “You were at that bakery in Azabu-Juban, weren’t you?”
Celebrities also really dislike cars without back seats.
If you have money, strange and unscrupulous people will come after you. Even without flaunting it, banks and investment firms will approach you.
Pulling out a titanium card is basically just advertising yourself as an easy mark.
If you flaunt your wealth at a dating club, women will assume they can probably get you to pay more.
There’s nothing to be gained from it.
The man you met is probably wealthy enough to avoid being bothered by those kinds of hassles.
It’s simply a matter of sorting people accordingly.
I wouldn’t make an offer to someone in the Platinum category, but I recommend changing your dating type to B before male members start complaining.
I’ve seen countless female members who received a lot of offers, only for them to suddenly stop completely.
Meg
Female
Send a reverse offer to this responder
🏅 修行の身
光と影
Age: 50s
👩 Female
Former Universe member
I’m Meg, a female member.
We all want to feel those butterflies, right? ☆
Men who can give us that feeling are the best!
(↑Just wishful thinking)
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
I also choose the restaurant after meeting her, but even though she’s my favorite—and it’s our first time meeting—shouldn’t I add something extra to her allowance for that?
And she’s a Type C, yet we’ve had dinner only twice?
Wait… when I think about the allowance, there’s no point in meeting her…
What’s going on??
P.S. Personally, expensive restaurants are obviously luxurious and high-quality, so they rarely surprise me and can feel boring.
I usually explore the city on my own, looking for places around ¥3,000–¥7,000 that are modern, stylish, tasteful, have a great atmosphere, women will enjoy, and serve exceptionally delicious food. I judge them by the feel and style of the entrance and walk in without reservations, searching for restaurants I’d want to bring a woman to. That way, I’m ready to accommodate any request, no matter what kind of cuisine she wants.
It’s honestly moving to think, “Every place looks so delicious!”
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flagmaker, a column writer.
I think the man you were seeing most recently either doesn’t actually have that much money, or he does but doesn’t want to spend it on dating.
It’s probably one of those two.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here.
If you’ve been on more than a dozen dates, I think you’ve probably gotten a good sense of the kinds of places men generally take women to—and that they’re willing to spend a decent amount of money to win them over.
At a dating club, the kind of restaurant a man takes you to is important too, and some women sign up expecting that.
That’s precisely one of the differences between a dating club and a dating app. That’s why more and more wonderful women come to Universe Club.
Men vary widely, too. Some may join thinking it’s basically a dating app. In those cases, things may turn out the way you described.
And I don’t think that’s because they’ve become too accustomed to the club. It’s probably simply that they don’t know the etiquette unique to dating clubs.
That said, it isn’t always the man’s fault; sometimes the staff are also responsible. This raises the question of how much staff should intervene with men.
If the man already knows what he’s doing, being told by staff might make him think, “I know that already,” or even, “If that’s all you’ve got, you still have a long way to go.”
Some men also ask at the time of registration because they genuinely don’t know what to do.
In my case, I explain that if they want to increase their chances of things going well after dinner, they need to properly court the woman. That means taking her to a reasonably upscale restaurant—or even somewhere less expensive, as long as it’s the kind of place she would enjoy.
(And when I say “upscale,” I don’t mean particularly expensive for a Universe Club member—just somewhere costing around ¥10,000.)
However, for some reason, there are staff members who tell men from the outset, “Please don’t take her to an expensive restaurant.”
The reasoning is understandable: if the woman cancels at the last minute, the loss is greater. Still, I sometimes wonder whether that’s really the best approach.
As a result, we get feedback like:
“I didn’t like being taken to an izakaya without a private room.”
“I was uncomfortable being taken to a beer garden.”
“He took me to a family restaurant.”
Come to think of it, someone once asked what to do if a man took her to Sushiro.
Most regular male members would probably think, “Why Sushiro for the first date?”
But there are a small number of men who take women to cheap restaurants on the first date.
Of course, some women may prefer a higher allowance over having money spent on the restaurant.
Still, since this is a special opportunity to meet someone, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to take her somewhere appropriate for a dating club at least for the first date.