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Feb 23, 2020 06:12
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> I don’t care about wealth or status.
No matter how feminine or foolish people may say I’m being, if we were to enter into a relationship, I intend to take responsibility for the future of this young, single staff member, who is at the age to be settling down.
When I think about her life, wealth and social status mean nothing to me. I simply want to devote everything I have to overcoming every obstacle and helping her become happy.
> “To be honest, if you were someone she could date, you would already be dating her. That’s how fate works.
> You’ve probably already missed your chance. It’s likely too late now, and no matter how much you approach her, it probably won’t feel fresh or surprising to her anymore.
> In your case, I think the only opportunity to catch her off guard was during your first or second meeting, in the spirit of a once-in-a-lifetime encounter.”
We’ve met about twice.
Would it be fair to say that I fell in love at first sight when we met for the first time?
However, I wondered whether I was only seeing something superficial, so when we met for the second time, I spoke with her honestly while sorting through my feelings.
Even if she felt some kind of connection with me as a staff member, I don’t think she would reveal her true feelings after only one or two meetings, considering that relationships with male members are prohibited.
And I also don’t think this is something I could simply say outright, so I still haven’t revealed what’s in my heart.
My understanding was that relationships between male members and female staff are prohibited in principle.
> “You can’t possibly not know that. Don’t lie.”
I have never once told anyone to let me speak purely out of emotion.
Putting my romantic feelings aside, I have asked several times for her, as my assigned staff member, to be contacted or to call me back.
I did so believing that it was an obvious right of mine as a member.
I’m sorry that yesterday I let my anger get the better of me and responded too defensively.
I look forward to hearing everyone’s opinions.
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Meg
Female
Send a reverse offer to this responder
🏅 修行の身
光と影
Age: 50s
👩 Female
Former Universe member
I’m Meg, a female member.
A few parting words for the person who’s making a clean break and leaving the site (wait, is that the right way to put it?)—
“There is only one path in the world
that no one but you can walk.
Do not ask where that path leads.
Just keep moving forward.”
—Nietzsche
*And don’t confuse him with Nichelle.*
Well, you’re impatient, so I doubt you’ll even see this answer anyway.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the Business Planning Office here as well.
> I’ve asked several times for her to be forwarded the call or to call me back, since she’s my assigned staff member.
I have a question.
Is that woman really your assigned staff member?
Could she be a female staff member from a branch different from the one where you’re registered?
Staff members at branches other than your registered branch are not your assigned staff. Your assigned staff member is someone at your registered branch. You cannot have a staff member from a branch where you aren’t registered assigned to you.
The sales also belong to your registered branch.
No matter how many offers you make, they only count toward your registered branch’s performance—not that of the female staff member at the other branch.
The more you contact another branch, the less that staff member can do her actual job, so she’ll simply end up being seen as a slow worker.
(Your calls become work for the other branch.)
That was a strange question, but assuming that:
- there’s no issue with the situation above,
- you’ve genuinely fallen for the female staff member at your registered branch, and
- she has properly become your assigned staff member as a Black Class benefit,
then, to put it in terms a devoted idol fan would understand:
You need to “stack” far more.
(“Stacking” means buying multiple copies of the same CD or DVD.)
Among idol fans, it’s said that:
“You should always support your favorite with the maximum firepower you currently have.”
You wrote:
“I don’t mind spending my fortune or risking my position.”
But it doesn’t seem like you’ve stacked at all. You aren’t supporting her with your maximum firepower, either.
For every phone call you make, you should make one offer to a Black Class woman. That’s the bare minimum when it comes to stacking.
(It’s still nowhere near maximum firepower.)
Even if you think there’s no point in going on that many dates, the purpose here isn’t the dates—it’s the stacking. So you can simply have the date woman join you for a meal and then send her home.
On top of that, to receive good feedback from your date partners, you need to give them more than you normally would for a meal—say 30,000 yen—and make arrangements along the lines of, “Please leave me good feedback.”
The assigned staff also read the feedback, so if you’re a man who receives a lot of positive feedback, they’ll get the impression that you’re a good person.
Then, if you repeatedly make offers and keep stacking, 30 calls a month would generate 3 million yen in sales for that female staff member: 30 × 100,000 yen. Sixty calls would mean 6 million yen. Ninety calls would mean 9 million yen.
The staff member may be confused at first, but if this continues for six months, her standing within the company will improve. Even if she initially thinks of you as a troublesome member, before long you’ll be upgraded to a “good member.”
Being regarded as a good member will work strongly in your favor.
From a business standpoint, she’ll probably become less reluctant to meet with you for discussions as well. In time, you may even go from being a “good member” to being a “good man.”
Once you become a “good man,” the question will be how to win her over.
Support your favorite with maximum firepower, and keep stacking.
That’s the basic principle.
Other
I’m BB7, a male member.
I believe the questioner is free to fall for whoever they want, but when someone becomes that serious after meeting only once or twice, I can’t help wondering, “Are you okay?”
If I were that female staff member, I’d simply find it scary—and creepy.
I’m not sure what they liked so much about her. Was it that she was polite and attentive, cute, listened carefully to what they had to say, or was kind?
Even if they did like that attitude and the way she treated them, they never met or talked privately. She was dealing with them as part of her job—sales, essentially—and showing only her professional persona. The questioner’s purity in falling for someone so deeply under those circumstances is both enviable and, precisely because it’s so pure, a little dangerous.
Let’s calm down and think rationally. Rushing headlong into a fantasy or delusion is unlikely to end well.
Is this kind of serious, no-nonsense answer unnecessary on this board?
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
I generally agree with Mac’s way of thinking. Mac’s answer is shining more than usual this time. I think it’s a good strategy.
That said, her being wealthy has already been established through the interview and such, so I don’t think there’s any need for a bundle of one million yen bills... (lol) Chocolate alone should be enough.
Also:
> Give her a clean ending and make it a good memory.
Wait—does it end here?
Isn’t it just getting started? (lol)
P.S.
BB7’s serious response is important.
To the questioner: are you going to be okay? Everyone answering is saying, “Let’s face reality a little more!” But they say love is blind, and danger and courage go hand in hand.
If you’re still going to go for it, then perhaps you’ll need one million yen, a bankbook showing your savings, Hermès, and so on...
In this case, since she’s someone you’re particularly interested in, I think you have to assume she naturally has a boyfriend. She may even have other papas.
I believe the proposal is based on the premise that, under those circumstances, you would have to take her away from the boyfriend or papa she loves and promise her even greater happiness.
You never know what life has in store. A man starts out with nothing but the clothes on his back, and I think there’s nothing wrong with staking everything on a single ray of hope.
That said, the odds of success are extremely low.
If you’re going to charge ahead, do so with the “resolve” to be shattered into countless pieces without a trace!
Whenever I buy a lottery ticket, I wait for the results fully convinced that I’ve won.
But I’ve never actually won anything so far. (Tears)
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
How pathetic…
Too little, too late…
It seems my words struck a chord with you…
For you, this must be a once-in-a-lifetime encounter.
If things work out, you’ll probably feel it’s the greatest destiny imaginable.
Even just imagining it—whether it happens to you or not—is exciting, isn’t it?
It’s actually pretty important whether “around twice” means two meetings or three…
If it was only twice, there may still be a faint glimmer of hope: perhaps a third meeting could be a last chance.
In that case, she would already need to be interested in you. If she isn’t, you should probably consider it almost hopeless.
If she is interested, exchanging contact information or inviting her to dinner should go smoothly. So I suspect the outcome has probably already been decided.
Since she’s a woman you’re this troubled over, she may be so wonderful that every man out of a hundred would fall head over heels for her.
Which means most men would be just as nervous as you are and unable to make a straightforward move.
With a woman like that, she may not be accustomed to such direct approaches. The question is whether you can simply catch her off guard with one.
>Even if that female staff member feels some connection with me as a woman, I don’t think she would be able to reveal her honest feelings after only one or two meetings, considering the rules against relationships with male members.
If you talk for five or ten minutes, she’ll answer honestly if you ask, even at the first or second meeting.
She probably won’t be swayed by money, status, or looks.
It will come down to chemistry.
And with a woman like that, because of the nature of her job, even if you feel you have good chemistry, 999 out of 1,000 times it’s probably just a one-sided misunderstanding. So you should ask sooner rather than later.
P.S. Mac,
If it were one million yen, I think the questioner might seriously go for it.
They probably wouldn’t mind paying two or three million either… Going by their words, they might even do it in the ten-million-yen range.
Of course, it would probably all be returned and completely backfire…
Why not put it in a love letter or between the pages of a book, and hand her your bankbook and personal seal?
How much? Your entire fortune?
How much would that be?
Oh—no, actually, perhaps Hermès would be better…
P.P.S. Mac and questioner,
It’s a wonderful thing to experience a love that makes you this excited.
It’s one of the great joys of being a man—or proof that being born was worth it.
And if, by some one-in-ten-thousand miracle—which probably won’t happen—you actually ended up dating her, how happy would that be… And with all this written down, you’d feel an incredible sense of superiority at the same time…
Satisfaction and superiority—
Wow… what a thrill…
P.P.P.S. Jam,
Come on, let’s get carried away by such an entertaining topic!
P.P.P.P.S. To be honest, though, unless you’ve had successful experiences in the past, you won’t have the confidence or composure to pull this off. It’s simply impossible.
Make one last move, even if you expect nothing, so that it might lead to the questioner’s future—and then leave it at that.
However, even in that case, it’s essential that the questioner be in their thirties, or at least look no older than around forty.
>Maezawa, that’s a great idea! As expected of you!
I had an older friend who kept flying round-trip on the Denmark route every week for a year, solely for that purpose, to see a beautiful JAL flight attendant—and he successfully won her over. You’re absolutely right.
Back then, if you flew that often, they would come to your seat every time to greet you personally and ask what you needed.
Thank you for the question. m(._.)m