I’m Meg, one of the female members.
It’s amazing how many different ways people think about compensated dating.
I honestly couldn’t relate to it at all, either.
Though, given my age, I guess I’d be classified as being involved in compensated dating? (^_^;)
But the moment you say there are absolutely no romantic feelings involved, I’m immediately out!
It was quite an education.
Thanks, Papuwa-san (*^^*)
I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
This is the first time I’ve heard of “compensated dating.”
I was like, “Huh, I see, I see.”
People really do come up with all kinds of things, don’t they? (lol)
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here.
After looking at the site, it appears to be an affiliate site. Since not many people would visit if it were just a standard site, I get the impression they’re proposing a new concept.
If this term catches on, the people behind the site will have really accomplished something.
The content seems to be primarily aimed at women, so I imagine they’re trying to attract women who dislike compensated dating and papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), but still want money.
> “The woman isn’t expected to provide anything in return...” I found myself wondering whether some men might take wording like this at face value, accidentally join a dating club, and then get angry when the woman asks for an allowance.
There was also a link saying “For men,” but since the site’s content was geared toward women in the first place, I don’t think anyone would join by mistake.
And in the case of Universe, everything is explained properly when members join, so I don’t think there’s any room for misunderstanding.
Also, since they use the term “honorarium,” it seems to me that the basic premise is for the man to pay one.
It looks like the affiliate marketers are coming up with all sorts of ways to attract customers.
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
At Papuwa-san’s age, it seems fair to think of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) as something that gradually develops into a compensated relationship as people gain more life experience with age.
Originally, when a somewhat older man and woman are in a romantic relationship and remain close for a long time, they naturally start doing things for each other that are somewhat similar to a compensated relationship.
When that kind of relationship extends beyond romantic partners and can also work between people who aren’t a couple, I suppose you could call it a compensated relationship.
In a sense, it wouldn’t be wrong to consider papa-katsu part of compensated relationships.
Originally, a man can give as much as he wants to express his feelings. Since the age gap in a papa arrangement is so large, having a clearly defined amount each time can make a younger woman feel more secure. The amount usually isn’t all that huge, and it can simply be paid once the terms are agreed upon—that’s papa-katsu. Even then, a papa can be as generous as he wants with the allowance, so it does contain elements of a compensated relationship. However, giving a young woman an enormous amount of money isn’t necessarily good for her, so I think it’s more appropriate to call it papa-katsu rather than a compensated relationship.
As women mature, men naturally start wanting to take the initiative without the woman having to ask—and that tends to result in them giving quite generously, with practically no upper limit. With age and experience, women also become more skilled at handling men.
So it’s entirely possible for a compensated relationship to be much more lucrative than papa-katsu.
Papa-katsu feels like the cheaper option, while if you call it a “thank-you payment,” the man can’t help but be generous… That’s the impression I get.
P.S. In my case, I give the allowance requested each time to the women I only see occasionally, once or twice a month. But with the women I see frequently, almost every week, I’ve never given them a fixed allowance or even set a specific amount… Wait, I’ve apparently turned it into a compensated relationship without realizing it. That said, I asked them what amount they wanted on the first day, so on average I’m paying considerably more. Even the Type C woman now says she doesn’t need an allowance. In return, she makes sure I’m well taken care of…
Contrary to the article, a compensated relationship might actually make it easier to ask for help when you need it.
For things like designer bags, though, papa-katsu probably does make it easier to ask, just as the article says.
P.P.S. I’m on my way to a date right now, and I got a call from a great senior in his seventies saying, “I got scammed!” I asked what happened, and he said, “I gave her the money for her daughter’s school entrance fee, but she didn’t even have a daughter.”
“Oh, that’s nothing too serious.”
“I can’t get in touch with her.”
“Since when?”
“Four days ago.”
“Ah, she’ll probably contact you again.”
Even a master like him is still so naïve when it comes to women, no matter how old he gets.
This counts as a compensated relationship too!
I’m a male member, Seattle.
It doesn’t feel all that different from papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
Even at Universe, only about one in two women gets an offer. I wonder if people in their 30s who lack confidence give it a try, hoping for a chance.
