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Feb 16, 2020 15:50
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I’ve met many men so far, but only about two relationships continued. What’s more, both of them gave me only half the allowance I was hoping for. (I left the allowance up to those two men. Since it was half of what I usually receive, I told them that I normally ask for around this amount, but neither of them changed their offer. Still, I was satisfied with them, so I accepted those terms.)
After that, I started receiving offers from men with annual incomes of 50 million yen or more.
I now have a few ongoing relationships, and personally, I feel that it’s easier to maintain a long-term relationship with men who have higher incomes.
From the very first time I met them, the men I’m still seeing either added a substantial amount on top of the allowance I requested, or, even when I left the amount up to them, offered more than I normally ask for. I was happy that they felt I was worth that much.
Before I started receiving offers from these higher-income men, relationships would either end after one meeting with exactly the amount I requested, or, even if they continued, the allowance would be half of what I asked for. Does that mean that, from their perspective, I wasn’t appealing enough to continue seeing at the amount I requested??
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Meg
Female
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🏅 修行の身
光と影
Age: 50s
👩 Female
Former Universe member
I’m Meg, a female member.
Umm... is this a question?
Or are you just bragging?
I’m genuinely wondering!
Other
I’m Saito, a column writer♪.
As the questioner is concerned, I think the amount is determined by:
- Budget
- Compatibility (personal preferences)
So whether you received less than you hoped for or more than you expected reflects where the two lines on the graph intersect—that is, how you’re being evaluated.
That said, there are many other women with the same perspective as you who are seeing supporters offering over ¥50 million. (Our time is very limited.)
I hope your arrangement continues for two or three years.
Other
I’m a male member, BB7.
To begin with, were the men you dated for half the usual allowance low-income earners?
Or did they have high incomes but only offer half—or were they one-time arrangements?
Are you simply assuming their incomes must have been low because they only offered half?
Since we don’t know that, it’s impossible to compare those men who paid half with your current generous 50-million-yen man.
Also, there have been more and more of these long-winded, one-upmanship-style posts lately. Is this just bait?
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
Naturally, the way people spend money varies depending on their income, especially their disposable income. Someone like me, with a low income, has less money available to spend, so even if I believe something is worth it, I may not be able to pay that much—and the arrangement probably won’t last.
Therefore, when accepting an offer, it is clearly more advantageous for you to receive one from someone wealthier and, ideally, a good man.
With that in mind, if he says, “This is what I can offer—perhaps half that amount,” I think it means that he fully recognizes your value but simply cannot afford to pay more.
After that, it is up to you to decide whether to continue or decline.
Also, the way people evaluate an arrangement after continuing it—whether they are receiving a sufficient allowance or are dissatisfied—is basically subjective and differs from person to person. Ultimately, I think the overall assessment includes the amount of money involved.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here as well.
Based on my understanding:
- She was able to go on dates with many men. (Around 10?)
- She had an amount in mind that she wanted. (Around ¥100,000?)
- Two of those relationships are still ongoing, but when she left the allowance up to them, she only received half of what she wanted—¥50,000 per meeting?
- So at some point, she asked, “Would it be possible to receive ¥100,000 per meeting?” But she still only received ¥50,000 per meeting, as before.
- However, they’re both good people, so she continues seeing them for ¥50,000 per meeting.
Later, when she told a high-income man, “My preferred amount is ¥100,000,” he gave her ¥100,000 per meeting plus ¥20,000 (for a taxi?).
(Wait, is she the person who asked that other question recently? Haha.)
There are also other high-income men who give her ¥100,000 without her having to say anything, and those relationships are still ongoing.
In the past, when she stated her preferred amount, she received it—but they wouldn’t meet her again, so the relationship didn’t continue.
When she didn’t state an amount, the relationship continued, but the amount was lower than she wanted.
> Does that mean that, in their eyes, I wasn’t attractive enough for them to continue seeing me at my preferred amount?
The men’s financial circumstances also play a role. If your preferred amount is high, even if they find you attractive, they may still feel that the amount is too difficult for them.
I think they may have been able to see you once, but found it difficult to pay that amount every time.
However, recently you’ve met men who have more financial flexibility, and they feel that you’re worth seeing at that amount.
In other words, your preferred amount and your appeal are well matched, but the amount is high enough that only men earning ¥50 million or more a year can comfortably pay that allowance every time.
For example, there are luxury watches that cost around ¥20 million. Some people find such watches attractive and pay ¥20 million to buy them, while others may also find them attractive but simply lack the means to pay that much.
That watch probably does have enough appeal to justify the price. But only a limited number of people can actually afford to buy it.
Your situation may be something like that.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m a male member, Papercraft.
If most arrangements only last one meeting, I imagine many of the men were regretted the moment they met in person.
迷わない70代
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パパ活歴11年目、回答者歴8年目の関西在住者。パパ活終活中(笑)
Age: 70 or older
👨 Male
Former Universe member
I’m a confused man in my 60s.
What an amusing little story.
It’s utterly ridiculous…
It’s supposed to be “whatever you think is appropriate,” yet she tells him how much she wants…?
And how did she even find out his annual income? Abuse of authority??
Other
I’m Marika, a female member.
To summarize your question:
- In the past, you never had anyone continue seeing you at your desired allowance.
- Even when someone paid only half of what you wanted, you continued seeing him because he was a good person—but that’s in the past.
- Now, a wealthy man has approached you, pays more than your desired amount, and you’re satisfied and still seeing him.
So, are you wondering whether the people who didn’t give you your desired allowance did so because you weren’t attractive enough?
There are people with all kinds of preferences and financial situations. The men who didn’t give you the amount you wanted may not have found you attractive enough to pay that much, may not have felt you were worth it—or may simply have had to stop because of their financial circumstances.
Since you’ve received enough offers to compare and are now happily continuing with someone, isn’t it fine that both you and the man found an arrangement that suits your preferences?
If you worked extremely hard after no one continued seeing you in the past and that’s how you became able to date the people you’re seeing now, then perhaps you weren’t as appealing back then.