I’m Meg, a female member.
Ugh, this feels kind of unpleasant (-""-;)
But the allowance and transportation money are pretty generous, so… (grin)
> Papuwa-san
I’m a bored, flat-chested housewife.
Living in a luxury high-rise condo, huh? Kind of something to aspire to (^_^;)
But those lunch gatherings sound like competitive one-upmanship contests. Ah, I’m starting to feel a little scared.
I have absolutely no confidence I could win.
“Mounting gorilla” → I’m compiling a collection of Papuwa-san’s classic quotes. (LOL)
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
Once you’ve found someone you really like, leaving the club—that’s the smart way to do it.
I’ve heard girls who joined the club say things like, “The men at these clubs think they can do anything with money.” (Apparently, some of them give quite a lot even for transportation expenses alone.)
Men need to be mindful not to give that impression.
P.S. I’m sorry—this question seems to have been prompted by my answer to the transportation-expense question. m(_ _)m
If things have progressed to the point of an allowance, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with giving a generous amount for transportation or a taxi.
Maezawa-san, was it also okay to give a generous transportation allowance when it was dinner only?
Granted, it wouldn’t become an issue if the girl didn’t complain, but…
I seem to remember the concern was that it would create an unfair gap with men who seriously stick to giving no more than ¥10,000.
P.P.S. Mac-san, exactly. If the woman doesn’t complain, it isn’t really a problem between the two of them. But when I casually mentioned it while talking on the phone with a staff member, I was warned about it.
Apparently, spending money on jewelry or shopping was okay? Giving it as part of the meal expenses also seemed to be allowed.
P.P.P.S. Papua-san, this can also work in reverse from the “mountain” approach at the same time.
The women must be that wonderful, but I kept making more offers because I felt that the only way I could be attractive enough to match them was with that much money…
P.P.P.P.S. Mac-san, relationships between men and women are complicated, aren’t they?
Men try to increase the allowance. As that happens, both the man and the woman gradually feel more and more obligated, and the woman provides that much more attention and hospitality in return. The man mistakes it for genuine affection and continues increasing the allowance even further.
Eventually, the woman grows tired of those obligations, and the relationship falls apart.
And the man doesn’t realize that he brought about the breakup himself…
I hope more people are able to maintain long-term relationships while taking care not to let things turn out that way.
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here.
I’m glad to hear you had a good time on your date yesterday. And considering that you had agreed on an amount including transportation, yet she gave you extra money for a taxi at the end, she sounds like a lovely woman. You’re kind as well.
For someone like you, who follows the rules properly and gives the allowance upfront as transportation expenses when meeting for a meal, it’s understandable to think, “I follow the rules, so shouldn’t people who don’t follow them be dealt with accordingly?”
But, for example, in the case of the law, not every violation automatically results in the death penalty. There are fines, detention, imprisonment, and so on, with the punishment varying depending on the circumstances.
The same applies at Universe: we do want everyone to follow the rules. However, people do sometimes forget. And since we’re dealing with people, there are also those who will understand if you talk things through with them. Even if it’s a hassle, staff need to make an effort to ensure the rules are understood. If we’ve been neglecting that, then we should clearly remind everyone to follow the rules.
So it’s not a matter of forcibly banning someone no matter what. However, if someone thinks, “I’m the one who decides everything, and I have no intention of following Universe’s rules,” then I think it would be perfectly reasonable to forcibly terminate their membership.
Update:
> Is it okay to give a larger transportation allowance when it’s dinner only?
> Technically, it doesn’t become a problem because the women don’t complain in those cases, but…
> I thought it wasn’t allowed because it would create a disparity with men who seriously give no more than 10,000 yen…
Yes, it’s fine to give a larger transportation allowance for dinner only. In Tokyo, some men give 20,000 or even 30,000 yen for dinner only.
Some branches may say it’s not allowed, but it isn’t prohibited by the official rules.
The idea that it’s not allowed because it creates a disparity, or that you shouldn’t spoil the women, may be something that particular branch says independently.
Personally, I think it’s fine to spoil the women a little. (笑)
