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Feb 12, 2020 17:34
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I’m a Tokyo member who was recently upgraded to Black membership.
I requested the counseling session included as a Black membership benefit and was given a lot of valuable information.
Is this being offered with a policy of prioritizing service over profitability to this extent?
It completely removed the limitations of communicating by email or phone, and I even somewhat regret not paying for a session before upgrading.
8 answers
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here with an additional note.
> What on earth is counseling?!
> Does meeting with a staff member count as counseling?
> Then I guess I’ve already had counseling… sweat
The page below explains what services are available for each membership class:
https://universe-club.jp/men/join/
The section titled “In-person consultation ※” refers to counseling.
Originally, it was simply described as meeting in person for a consultation, but at some point it may have changed to the wording used in the note.
The note says:
※ In-person counseling with a concierge staff member.
For Standard, Gold, and Platinum members, this is a paid option costing ¥5,000 per hour.
We will accommodate requests for a specific staff member whenever possible.
Black members may use this service free of charge up to twice a month (tea and meal expenses are the member’s responsibility).
If you request a female staff member, the men’s club and the staff will start wondering what you’re thinking, so be careful. Naturally, almost everyone at the branch will assume you’re that kind of man.
That said, if you normally interact with everyone as a gentleman—for example, if a female staff member is usually assigned to you—she’ll probably be the one to handle it even without you specifically requesting her.
If she doesn’t come, either she happened to be busy, or you weren’t as gentlemanly as you thought.
Other
I’m Saito, the column writer♪
What even is counseling?!
Meg
Female
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🏅 修行の身
光と影
Age: 50s
👩 Female
Former Universe member
I’m Meg, a female member.
I have to say, Kida from Universe is impressive for always making sure there’s a proper place for the right people whenever it’s needed.
For the person who asked the question, I’d say this is an incredibly good-value counseling session!
I don’t have the full bust that attracts men at all, but I am a self-proclaimed (hmm?) housewife who’s popular with people of all ages and genders.
I’m good at listening and adapting to each person’s situation. (Oh, looks like I do have a special skill after all!)
“〇〇-chan’s mama!” (A group of kindergarteners comes running over.)
“What is it?” (with a big smile)
“Good morning, Mr./Ms. 〇〇! It’s cold again today, isn’t it?” (said with a refreshing smile to a neighborhood association officer)
“I don’t understand this!” (asked by a middle schooler)
“Let’s see… Hmm, this part means…”
“〇〇-chan, what should I do from here?” (a call from a single former classmate who’s worried about his future) Once he calls, it’s nonstop for one or two hours.
“〇〇’s mom! Can I ask you something? My 〇〇 has been doing this and that…”
If you’re okay with someone like me, I’d be happy to listen.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here as well.
Some men join, make offers, and yet things don’t go well with the women they meet.
They may find a woman attractive in her photos, but when they actually meet her, she turns out to be different from what they had imagined.
Once you become experienced, you can generally get a sense of things from a woman’s profile, and you know what to ask the staff. You can simply ask about the key points.
But if you’re not at that stage yet, you may not even know what questions the staff can answer in the first place. And if you ask something inappropriate, they may simply tell you that they can’t answer that, and the conversation ends there.
Then you end up repeatedly looking at profiles, making an offer while wondering whether the next woman will be your type, only to find out that she isn’t.
However, if you meet and speak with a staff member directly, you can say, “This is what I’d like to know,” and because you’re talking face-to-face, they may be able to explain things like:
“We can’t answer that specific question, but we can tell you this.”
That may help them understand, at least to some extent, what the man really wants to know.
Also, by speaking with the staff in person, you’ll start to learn what they can and can’t tell you. After that, even if you don’t meet face-to-face again, you’ll know how to phrase your questions over the phone.
Once you understand that, you’ll be able to get the information you want before making an offer, making it easier to decide whether a woman is actually your type.
Experienced members probably don’t need this kind of support. But for men who haven’t reached that level yet, I think speaking with the staff directly is something worth taking advantage of if you want to enjoy using a dating club.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Hikoki, a male member.
For the person asking, this involves relationships between men and women—and romantic feelings as well—so it’s only natural that they feel grateful when the club listens to them for hours, helps clear up their worries, strengthens their trust in the club, and gives them positive energy for the future, even if it seems almost impossible to justify financially.
In reality, only a fraction of members—perhaps a few percent—seek this kind of advice, so it seems unlikely to pose any problem in terms of profitability.
The club probably appreciates being consulted in this way, too. If they see these conversations as an opportunity to hear representative opinions and perspectives from many members, they can gather valuable information, the staff can learn a great deal, and it may ultimately help with the club’s future operations.
🏅 手コキ評論家
入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Joe, a columnist.
The biggest perk of being a Black member is being able to make offers to women categorized as Black. I joined at the Platinum level, but upgraded to Black afterward because there was a Black woman I was extremely interested in (it led to a lot of drama, haha). As Mac-san wrote somewhere as well, I agree that “you can always upgrade to Black when you find a Black woman who’s truly your type.”
That said, I’m registered in a regional area. In Tokyo, there are probably more staff members and Black women, so perhaps many people are as satisfied as you are.
The membership fee is the same, so I’m a little jealous, haha.
迷わない70代
Male
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パパ活歴11年目、回答者歴8年目の関西在住者。パパ活終活中(笑)
Age: 70 or older
👨 Male
Former Universe member
I’m a confused sixty-something.
What’s that?
I’m a Black member, but I’ve never heard of it… sweat… Is it only in Tokyo?
Oops, I guess that doesn’t really answer your question?
P.S.
Does meeting with the staff count as counseling?
In that case, I guess I’ve had counseling… sweat.
Though it felt more like just saying hello and making small talk… Sorry, A and M… lol
Sorry to the person who asked, but is it really something that moving?
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
> Are Univ’s counseling rates inexpensive?
First of all, I think they probably feel very reasonable to people who need counseling, while those who don’t need it might find them expensive…? (Since they don’t need counseling in the first place.)
People naturally have all kinds of worries in life. It might be good to get counseling once in a while.
But I probably don’t need it right now…
Full of energy, lacking in physical strength, and only a little potency—but I’m enjoying every day!
I’m just naturally carefree… sorry(笑)