I’m hesitating about joining.
I’m currently using dating apps.
What concerns me is that nothing is guaranteed until I actually meet someone in person for the first date.
Is it really common for there to be no allowance for the first meeting? The site advertises that there are many high-income men, but… what are the chances of getting 50,000 yen or more per meeting?
I’ve had to learn how to spot scams on apps, so I may be a little overly suspicious.
At the moment, I’m meeting men for 50,000–60,000 yen per meeting.
Also, would it be difficult to receive offers in Kumagaya, Saitama?
I’d appreciate it if anyone with experience could share their thoughts.
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office will answer as well.
> Is it really common for there to be no allowance on the first date?
If you choose Dating Type C or D, 99% of men will invite you to an adult relationship (intimate) after the meal from the very first day.
Since it’s a consensual, open dating arrangement, it’s entirely up to you whether you accept.
Men also pay the club a setup fee for each woman they meet—¥50,000 or ¥100,000, and even more for especially sought-after women—so I think many of them don’t intend to end things after dinner only.
If you choose Dating Type B or A, a gentleman generally won’t invite you to anything intimate on the first day. Men will act according to what the woman wants.
> You advertise having many high-income men, but… how likely is it that I could receive ¥50,000 or more per meeting?
Because these are consensual, open arrangements, the club doesn’t keep track of that. However, if you’re already receiving the amount you want through an app, then I believe you’re worth that much, so there’s no need to worry.
That said, if the men feel that Universe has many even more attractive women, there’s a possibility the amount offered may be lower than what you receive through the app.
It depends on your level of appeal.
> Would it be difficult to get offers if I’m in Kumagaya, Saitama?
If you’re able to meet in Tokyo, I don’t think there will be any problem at all. Meeting in Omiya would also be fine.
If you need to meet in Kumagaya, it will depend on your appeal, but generally, meetings are arranged in Tokyo or Omiya.
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I’m Adventure Merchant, a columnist.
Compared with dating apps, I think a relationship club offers a greater sense of security.
I assume you’re worried about the fact that “nothing is guaranteed”—in other words, that the allowance and other terms haven’t been decided in advance.
With apps, I often hear stories from friends about people agreeing beforehand that “the terms are ___,” only for things to be completely different when they actually met—or for the other person to simply disappear without a word.
Rather than relying on those kinds of empty promises, a relationship club is much more reassuring because “both you and the other person are known to the club.”
If the man you met were to do something terrible to you, it would probably be nearly impossible to track him down through a dating app. With a relationship club, however, you could contact the club and ask them to pursue the matter.
As for the allowance, the amount you’re hoping for is within the normal range, so I think most members would agree to it without any problem.
If you happen to run into one of the odd ones, talk to the club representative and ask them to introduce you to someone better next time.
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I’m a male member, Paper Airplane.
The fact that some men are willing to meet you for an allowance of 50,000–60,000 yen per meeting suggests that 50,000 yen or more per meeting is possible.
If you choose Type C, you’ll probably receive at least 50,000 yen from the first meeting without having to say anything.
However, if you ask for more than the going rate or what your value would generally warrant, the negotiation may fall through.
For the first meeting, I think it depends on your appearance.
If your looks and personality are outstanding, it seems that even Type A or Type B women can receive an allowance to match.
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I’m Meg, a female member.
Wow, you’ve managed to find someone on an app who gives you 50,000–60,000 yen per pay-per-meeting date! I had assumed the allowances in app-based papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) would be much lower. You must be beautiful and have a good eye for people.
I was uneasy about the fact that nothing is guaranteed before meeting someone for the first time through an app, so I went to Universe for an interview. Men who don’t provide an allowance from the very first meeting would probably receive some pretty harsh feedback from female members to the staff. So I don’t think you need to worry about that.
The chances of getting more than 50,000 yen per meeting →
It depends on how well you negotiate with your papa (a male supporter). (Try asking sweetly ☆)
As for joining →
If you don’t mind waiting for an offer, go for it ♪
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I’m Flagmaker, a column writer.
Dating apps often advertise to men with lines like “Find a free friends-with-benefits partner,” so I think a lot of men use them for that purpose. Doesn’t that make the experience pretty hit-or-miss?
In that respect, with a dating club, you can be sure you’ll receive an allowance.
That said, on an app, women can sometimes take the initiative and look for someone to meet. With Universe, women can click “You seem wonderful,” but basically, they have to wait for an offer.
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I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
Kumagaya is a major city, so I feel like it should be possible to find someone there.
Compared with apps, dating clubs are more honest and feel safer and more secure.
The reason is that the club only makes the introduction. Everything else is discussed after you meet.
If you’re not interested, you can simply decline.
Even if you do, you’ll generally still get dinner and at least ¥5,000 for transportation.
I don’t think it’s such a bad deal.
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I’m a male member in Seattle.
Even if the negotiation doesn’t work out, you’ll still receive a minimum transportation allowance of 0.5.
If there’s an offer at the rate you’re looking for, I think about 65% of them could work out.
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