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Dec 17, 2019 10:43
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Thank you for your answers.
Based on everyone’s responses, I’ve decided to continue staying registered as Type B for now.
I’ve had an adult relationship (intimate) with people I met for the second time (though it’s not guaranteed, since some didn’t make a move even on the second date), so I thought I met the conditions for Type B. That’s why I was a little surprised to see several answers saying I was almost Type A, or a Type B leaning toward A.
A question for men who have made an offer to someone registered as Type B:
If you said goodbye after the first meeting without seeing her a second time, have you ever felt that you’d been misled about her type?
To Mac:
I think the chance of meeting someone who is exactly my type through this site is practically zero. I’m not that naïve or living in a fantasy world (lol).
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🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
This is Mac, the columnist.
This is also a reply to Joe, but it includes a somewhat serious proposal, so I’m posting it as a new answer. Sorry for the duplicate response m(_ _)m
The difference between the A, B, and C dating types is basically when an adult relationship becomes an option: A doesn’t consider an adult relationship, B doesn’t allow one on the first day, and C may be open to one on the first day if the chemistry is right.
So even if only one or two women out of ten have a “strike”—meaning they might be open to it—if they’re willing to have an adult relationship with that person from the very first day, they can declare themselves as Type C.
So, logically, I agree with what the questioner is saying. But male members, are you really okay with that?
Intuitively, don’t you feel that the answer to “Out of ten ordinary middle-aged men you might pass on the street, how many do you think you could have sex with?” would increase in number as you go from A to B to C?
I think the clearest way to address this would be a follow-up survey by type—A, B, C, and D.
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If we collected responses from around 20 women in each category and posted the results for each type, I think it would help prevent misunderstandings based on everyone’s personal assumptions. What do you think, Maezawa? It probably wouldn’t be that much work.
My guess is that even some Type A women would end up having an adult relationship—which could, in turn, lead to more offers for Type A women. I also feel that Type B would clearly split into two groups: those closer to A and those closer to C.
Even setting aside my position as a male member, I find this fascinating from the perspective of studying women.
When people say that a Type B woman is “closer to A” or “closer to C,” I think what they’re really referring to is the percentage who end up having an adult relationship.
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
> If she says goodbye after the first meeting without ever seeing you a second time, do you consider that a dating-type scam?
In this case, as everyone has said, I don’t think it qualifies as a dating-type scam.
I’d probably feel a little disappointed and think, “I guess I wasn’t good enough,” but I’d have to face the reality that I simply wasn’t attractive enough to her. Chemistry may have played a part too, but I think we need to reflect on what was lacking and use that experience next time.
To me, a dating-type scam is when, after five or six dinner or karaoke dates, you ask, “Should we go to a hotel next time?” and she says no. Then you ask, “Have you ever been intimate with anyone you’ve met before?” and she replies, “No one.”
In a case like that, I would judge it highly likely to be a dating-type scam.
This is something I actually experienced when I had just joined.
She was a wonderful woman, so after that, I even suggested an A-type arrangement without an allowance.
We had two more dinner dates, but she never replied when I invited her out a third time, and things naturally faded out.
Other male members might say, “You’re such an idiot!” But that’s just my way of doing things.
🏅 手コキ評論家
入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Joe, a column writer.
I may be in the minority, so this might not be much help, but even when I’ve invited a Type B woman out and nothing happened on the second date, I’ve never once thought, “This is a Type B scam.” On the contrary, I honestly don’t understand the male members who complain, “Type B women are scammers!” (That’s just how Joe feels; judging from this forum, I seem to be in the minority.)
So I think you should register as Type B with confidence—and perhaps a little pride. That said, once you’ve received a few offers and feel more comfortable, changing your type could also be a good option.
Today, I had lunch with a Type B woman I recently invited out. We talked about some pretty personal matters (though I wasn’t the one making things personal, haha), and after understanding what she was looking for, we decided how we’d like to proceed with the relationship. I have a feeling this could become a good arrangement.
I hope you find a wonderful match and have a great experience as well.
P.S.
I love Mac’s answers and am always nodding along as I read them.
That said, I think Mac is a little too harsh in his view of Type B women. When he says, “If one or two out of ten are practically Type A, then they’re basically Type A,” I feel that most Type B women would be at a loss. I look at the same odds and think, “In other words, I just need to become one of those one or two, right?” Of course, I’m wasting unnecessary time and money trying to do that. Money can be earned again, but time can’t be recovered, so I’m still wandering around as usual.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m in my 30s and a new member.
If she doesn’t meet him a second time, I don’t think it should be considered a “type scam.”
But if she hints at an adult relationship (intimate) and then turns him down, or keeps him waiting through three to five dinner dates before rejecting him, I can understand why some men would get angry enough to post about it here.
迷わない70代
Male
Send a reverse offer to this responder
パパ活歴11年目、回答者歴8年目の関西在住者。パパ活終活中(笑)
Age: 70 or older
👨 Male
Former Universe member
I’m a lost-in-love woman in my 60s.
I’ve come to realize that we just didn’t click.
I’ll move on to the next one right away… lol.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here.
If the part that says, “I think you’ll meet someone you genuinely like only once or twice out of ten people,” is meant to say that only one or two out of ten will lead to an adult relationship (intimate), then it’s understandable that men would assume the person is essentially Type A or closer to Type A than Type B.
People often use phrases like “you need to be more prepared,” but men generally feel they need to be confident that things will work out with about five out of ten people.
If you can’t go that far, what they mean is, “I want you to be Type A; otherwise, I won’t make an offer.”
You might think, “If it’s five out of ten, that’s 50%, so isn’t it the same as Type C?” But with Type B, the difference is that you can finish with dinner only on the first day. You can decide by the second or third meeting, so you have more time to get to know the man than you would with Type C.
Still, I think many men feel that level of certainty is necessary.
So does that mean Type B isn’t acceptable? Since I hadn’t set any particular probability for what happens after the second meeting, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Type B.
> If a man says goodbye after the first meeting without seeing her a second time, does he ever feel that he was misled about her type?
I think men make that judgment based on the conversation during the first meeting. If they feel, based on what she says, “With this way of thinking, she must be Type A,” then I imagine reports of “type fraud” may follow.
This is a difficult area.
For example, if the first person she meets does lead to an adult relationship (intimate), then even if many people after that—say, ten—are dinner only (no intimacy), I don’t think it would be considered type fraud.
It may sound strange, but I suppose that’s just how these things work.
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Seattle, a male member.
Based on what you wrote above, this doesn’t sound like a type scam—she seems to be a straightforward Type B. Wishing you a wonderful experience with Universe Club!