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Dec 16, 2019 02:22
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To put it simply, this woman acts friendly and agreeable, hints at her body, gets as much money and gifts out of men as she can, and then disappears. She plans to go through the club without ever being intimate with anyone, take a luxurious university graduation trip, buy the things she wants—such as a computer—and then leave.
She probably came in without any real resolve, simply thinking that if she dated older men and knew how to play them, she could make easy money.
Making money is hard. Even earning 1,000 yen is hard. Most of Universe’s male members are successful, but except for those lucky enough to inherit their wealth, they should understand from experience how difficult it is to earn even 1,000 yen an hour. And yet, how shallow and disgusting are the women who misunderstand the papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) boom and swarm in, expecting men to support them with tens of thousands of yen per hour without any risk or sacrifice?
・Mr. Papa-katsu Gentleman and Mr. Date Yume
If I get to the heart of it, I want to harass her. I want to make her pay for what she did. For a woman, reporting her to the university would be more damaging than consulting the police.
・Mr. Mac
The mere fact of reporting her to the university would be the greatest disadvantage possible for her. There has recently been news about a former vice minister of agriculture, forestry, and fisheries being exposed for his activities, but women like this act so thoughtlessly because they are completely convinced they won’t be identified. They’re being naive. Also, a negative rating on Universe is ultimately just an ephemeral thing with no real-world consequences.
・Mr. Papua
I think that’s a calm, objective assessment.
・New Male Member in His 30s and Mr. Ikkyu
Your fundamental assumptions are different. There’s no basis for discussion if you’re going to hide behind platitudes. You should realize that the idea that “Type B means dinner only (no intimacy) is acceptable” is itself strange and overly lenient. Playing the gentleman is important, but your underlying motives are different, aren’t they?
If you strip away the pretty words, it all comes down to this: “I can support her dreams, satisfy my own ego, and have my sexual desires fulfilled too! I can pay as much as it takes!” Ask yourselves honestly. If that isn’t true, donate all the money you have left over after covering your necessities.
I consider women who start this without essentially being prepared for intimacy to be fraudsters across the board. They deceive men by hinting at their bodies and obtain in a few hours what would otherwise take days of grueling physical labor to earn.
・Mr. Maezawa
It probably wouldn’t legally constitute fraud. Those are the club’s rules. However, I feel that Type B is increasingly being treated as if anything goes.
Such a trend would certainly contribute to the club’s revenue. The number of registered women would increase, and because they don’t last long, the total number of offers from men would also rise.
Still, it’s understandable that people call it deceptive. I think the club bears some responsibility too. Failing to see through them during the interview and introducing half-hearted Type B women is like advertising, “These are domestic Wagyu beef rice balls—delicious, so please try one!” only for customers to line up and discover they’re made of plastic.
It’s fine that the papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) boom was created, but I feel that more and more young women in particular lack the necessary resolve. What makes it worse is that the club still registers them as Type B. Women who quit after a few unsuccessful dates are one thing, but those who continue dragging things out as Type B without ever offering intimacy should face realistic consequences. Next time, I intend to tell this woman some harsh truths about reality.
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I’m a male member, BB7.
I hate ingratitude and scams too. And while I’m at it, I also really dislike the kind of Type B women you described—especially those laid-back college girls doing papa-katsu who act as if they’re above the world.
So I completely understand how you feel.
That said, don’t you think the men who shower these boring, scammer-like women with gifts, flatter them, throw money at them, spoil them, and let themselves be strung along are also partly to blame?
I’m not saying that applies to you, but ultimately, these shameless Type B women exist because there are men who spoil them or get deceived because they’re poor judges of character. So I don’t think it’s right to blame only the women.
That doesn’t mean I’m telling you to think you were at fault.
In any case, once you meet a good woman, you’ll be able to forget all about some awful college girl like that.
There are 7,000 women, so I hope you meet plenty of others. There are wonderful women who aren’t ungrateful or dishonest and who will genuinely treat you with respect.
I’m one of the people who was saved by meeting someone like that.
I hope you find someone wonderful.
🏅 手コキ評論家
入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Joe, a columnist.
Like Mac, I can really understand how you feel—as a man.
But wanting to make the other person eat their words is negative energy. Isn’t life too short to spend time on something like that?
And even if you did make them eat their words, you probably wouldn’t feel any better. In fact, something may happen that makes you the one eating your words. Joe isn’t some extraordinary success story, but isn’t it true that what goes around comes around?
P.S. Apparently, the biggest cause of crimes committed by elderly people is anger.
Why don’t we both learn to control our anger?
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m in my 30s and a new member.
I was really discouraged when I saw this post while heading to work. I’m sorry my response apparently wasn’t helpful. I’ll leave it up to you how you deal with that woman.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here as well.
So that was the situation.
But rather than saying “a little harsh,” let me be quite blunt:
First, you should make offers to Type C women and gain some experience.
You’re far too inexperienced to make offers to Type B women. You’re simply not ready.
Even with Type C women, your chances are only about 50%. For example, unless you’re capable of getting to an arrangement after dinner with five Type C women in a row, I think it would be difficult for you to have a good time with a Type B woman.
Of course, some people have enough confidence and leeway that they can manage without doing that. But based on what you’ve told us, I think it’s too soon for you to make offers to Type B women.
You need to start by reconsidering why you assume it would be easy for a woman to agree to an adult relationship (intimate).
You mentioned women who aren’t truly prepared. However, the branch office checks their intentions extremely carefully.
Even if a woman lies during that process, she still carries the burden of knowing she’s lying.
If you can carefully work through that, the possibility isn’t zero. That said, the fact that I’m putting it this way should tell you that, normally, the chances are quite low.
Some men report that things worked out from the very first day. But that simply means the woman wasn’t really a Type B woman to begin with.
Type B is for men who want to make offers to women who are initially reluctant and enjoy the process of winning them over.
If the woman eventually gives in to the man’s kindness and says something like, “Actually, I was lying,” then you can conclude that she was assigned the wrong relationship type.
Or she may simply be unable to resist the man’s kindness and end up agreeing.
The other person is human too. Some women may not respond to kindness, but even after taking all of that into consideration, isn’t Type B for men who want to enjoy the process of winning someone over?
If that’s completely different from what you’re looking for, then I think you should make offers to Type C women instead. But why don’t you make offers to Type C women?
If the reason is that there just happen not to be any Type C women you like, and the women you want to make offers to just happen to be Type B, then I think your question contains a contradiction.
Once those Type B women are no longer available, it seems you would end up saying that Universe has no women you like—or no women you want to make offers to.
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
I’ve been treated the same way myself, so I completely understand how you feel.
However, as Mr. Saito also said in his answer to your previous question, if you bring this up, it could come back to bite you too, so I think you need to give it careful consideration.
In this case, wouldn’t it be best to chalk it up to a “lesson learned”?
I hope you’ll meet a more reliable woman next time, like Papua or Romane.
There are definitely dependable women out there, so rather than relying solely on your own judgment, I recommend consulting the club and having them help you look.
Once you start seeing a reliable woman, the amount you lost will seem insignificant.
Your dating expenses will be far greater, but you’ll feel emotionally and physically more stable, and you’ll also feel more motivated at work. (Since you’ll need to set money aside for it… haha.)
I sincerely hope you can quickly get yourself into a fulfilling place, both mentally and physically.
(Sorry, this is completely unrelated. I may get scolded for saying this, but it’s been on my mind.)
Papua,
When you say “pursuing your dream,” wouldn’t studying diligently at your desk to secure a stable job be what pursuing your dream looks like for you right now? What do you think?