Tips Nov 23, 2019 06:43

I went to a soapland for the first time in a while. In Universe terms, she would have been Platinum-class, and I spent nearly two hours with her for ¥30,000. (It’s cheaper because I’m in a regional city; some women there would even be Black-class in appearance.) In terms of satisfaction, I honestly felt it wasn’t much different from having sex with a woman from a club. If I make an offer to a club woman and go on an adult date (intimate), I’d need to pay two, three, or even four times what I paid at the soapland. Frankly, it made me wonder whether dating women from clubs is really worth that much more.

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For the men here, what do you find worth paying two or three times as much for? If your main goal is simply to have sex with a young woman, wouldn’t a soapland be enough? I don’t feel that a meal or conversation is worth ¥10,000, and since I feel like I’m the one providing knowledge and experience, I almost feel like I should be getting paid instead. I started going to clubs because I found cabaret clubs and adult entertainment empty, but now I’m starting to think that club dating is ultimately just pseudo-romance—paying to have someone play along with you—and perhaps just as empty. I may be told to quit the clubs and just go to cabaret clubs or soaplands, but I’d appreciate hearing your opinions on whether there’s anything worth paying two or three times as much for—and if so, what exactly that is.
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斉藤さんだぞ♪
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I’m Saito, a columnist♪ As the questioner pointed out, why do all those busy company presidents use dating clubs? LOL I personally use host clubs, soaplands, and dating clubs. At the soapland, I usually go with the three-person option, which costs around ¥200,000. The price itself doesn’t really matter. I stop at three because with four, I feel like one person would be left over. Everyone gets tested, and everyone is happy to go all the way. They’ll even come along for dinner or whatever, so I highly recommend it. I’m not explaining it very well, but that doesn’t mean I don’t use dating clubs. It’s kind of like joining different clubs at school. After playing soccer, you might play basketball the next day. Then the day after that, you might try painting. That’s basically how I see it. As the questioner said, if you don’t think it’s worth it, you can simply stop. In my case, I enjoy wasting money, so I keep wandering through the world of dating clubs. LOL P.S. The things I experienced through dating clubs that I couldn’t have experienced otherwise… There’s no way I can write about them here. I’m sure you can read between the lines. LOL
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前澤(スタッフ)
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here as well. > Is dating women from the club really worth that much? Everyone has their own way of thinking. At a soapland, men are customers, so any man can enjoy himself. You don’t have to worry about your appearance, and as long as you follow the rules, the women have been trained to provide professional service. I believe there’s a sense of hospitality there as well. If that suits you better, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with choosing it. If you’re currently a member, I think you’d be better off ending your membership. > The main purpose is to have sex with young women. Perhaps this is where our perspectives differ. Of course, that may be one of the goals, but I don’t think many people approach ordinary romantic relationships thinking, “The goal is sex, right?” Usually, it’s more about enjoying each other’s company, feeling comforted, or simply wanting to see the other person again without really knowing why. I think that’s the kind of world it is. Many people find that things they could do naturally when they were younger gradually become more difficult. Using Universe allows them to experience those things again. The question is whether they can find value in that. Of course, since this involves romance, you may like someone without them liking you back, or the other person’s only motivation may be money. Even so, some people are able to build a relationship with a good balance for both sides. Ultimately, Universe simply provides opportunities to meet people. Even so, the club continues to exist because there are men who believe it offers value they can’t find elsewhere.
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だて◎ゆめ
👨 Male Universe member
I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member. I’m a member from a regional area too. I actually feel exactly the same way as the person who asked the question. The only point I see a little differently is that women at dating clubs and host clubs have the right to refuse and can choose whether to proceed, don’t they? Going to a host club costs a fair amount as well, so the expense can quickly add up to about the same as a dating club’s introduction fee. If both people agree to date, doesn’t that generally mean the other person has evaluated you fairly positively too? So, as for what makes it worth paying for: 1. As Basil mentioned, some women at dating clubs don’t have boyfriends or other men they’re dating. With women like that, I feel they’re more likely to genuinely engage with you. If she’s truly invested in the relationship, I don’t mind spending a little extra(笑) In terms of technique, soaplands are definitely on another level. For purely physical pleasure, I’d say soaplands are better. Next: 2. Having more free time. I don’t have the time to go to host clubs and similar places, and finding women on my own is difficult, so a dating club is more efficient. Those are the two reasons for me.
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出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
In My 30s, New Member Since joining the club, I’ve stopped going to adult entertainment venues. But until just a few years ago, I went so often that my friends called me “Detective Conan of the adult entertainment world.” I even turned my experiences into data and analyzed them in various ways, lol. To put it simply, the club ultimately came closer to what I was looking for than adult entertainment venues did. ① I prioritize the person over technical skill or the details of the service. Overall satisfaction matters more to me than physical pleasure. → If I could be satisfied by the quality of the establishment itself, that would be fine. But since I ultimately prioritize the person, finding a favorite provider takes a lot of time and effort. ② The risk of my favorite provider leaving → Sudden departures happen often. Even if I’m able to stay in touch with her personally, relatively few are willing to meet privately afterward. The better ones often quit after having bad experiences with strange customers. When that happens, finding a new favorite is a real hassle. ③ I have to work around their schedules → Naturally, I have to make reservations based on the woman’s work schedule, which is inconvenient. The more popular she is, the harder it is to book her. ④ I’m a bit of a germaphobe → If she has already seen another customer before me, it gives me an uncomfortable feeling. I also worry about sexually transmitted infections. ⑤ In the end, I find myself wanting a sense of “amateurism” → If your main goal is to enjoy professional skills, then an adult entertainment venue is probably fine. But I ultimately find myself looking for compatibility, including the conversation and interaction between us. I tried all kinds of adult entertainment, but when the last provider I really liked left, I started thinking that maybe I should look for women who weren’t professionals. That turned out to be troublesome in its own way, though, and eventually I found my way to dating clubs. What’s great about clubs is how efficiently they can match you with high-quality women. By meeting and talking with a variety of women and developing adult relationships, physical compatibility is of course important, but you also get to experience their different personalities, values, and character. I can learn and grow through those encounters, and being able to meet women who make me feel that way is what I consider the best thing about dating clubs. To be completely honest, you can also meet women looking for a light, transactional relationship with no strings attached—something that’s simply fun. The ability to accommodate a wide range of needs is another advantage of dating clubs, I think.
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バジル
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Basil, a male member. I think the difference is whether you’re one of many anonymous people or someone known to just a few, and whether that helps ease the emptiness—or lets you believe it’s a kind of pseudo-romance. Some women don’t have any other men in their lives, including a boyfriend, so in those cases, even if you call it pseudo-romance, it can be genuinely close to the real thing. Since I joined the club, I’ve completely lost interest in commercial sex venues.
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スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m a male member from Seattle. Sex without genuine feelings feels empty. You can tell when someone is having sex mainly for the money. Once I get tired of their body, I end the relationship. I want to see that they’re enjoying the date, even if it’s only 20%. It makes a huge difference in how satisfied I feel. For that, I’d even be willing to pay several times more. With the person I’m closest to, I sometimes think I might even marry her. If I asked, I think she’d probably say yes.
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