I understand that many people believe, “Once the allowance amount has been decided, there should be no further negotiating.”
So, here's my question.
If a woman occasionally asks in a sweet, kitten-like voice, “Things are a little tight for me this month… Could you support me with a little more than usual?”
How do the male members respond?
Female members, have you ever asked for more? Or have you ever wanted to try asking?
Mr. Maezawa, as the staff representative, do you have any thoughts on how the club would like its members to respond when a woman makes such a request?
I’m Rula, a former male member of UC and a member of the new salon.
I’m happy to accommodate requests for gifts or similar things as long as the amount is reasonably modest.
For somewhat larger one-time expenses, such as moving costs or tuition, I’ve handled it by treating the payment as an advance for a certain number of meetings and deducting a small amount from the monthly allowance afterward.
For example, if we agreed on 250,000 yen per month and I provided 300,000 yen in emergency assistance, I’d recover it by deducting 50,000 yen each month—paying 200,000 yen per month for six months.
Hope this helps.
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I’m a male member based in Seattle.
When she asks for a higher allowance, I usually agree with a smile. I never try to lower it.
But if that keeps happening and I stop enjoying myself, I’ll end things. That’s fine—as long as she’s someone who makes it enjoyable for me.
When I break things off, I tell her I’ve met someone else. That isn’t a lie.
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I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
Thank you very much to everyone who took the time to answer.
This question is based on a true story.
The other day, I had a chance to meet with a staff member from the club.
I told them, “I get asked for little extras from time to time. I’m a bit of a pushover, so I get carried away and end up saying, ‘Sure, why not?’”
The staff member replied, “Please don’t spoil them too much. (笑)” That got me wondering what everyone else does.
After reading everyone’s responses:
The women seemed to be thinking, “They’re pretty sly…”
And the men seemed to be thinking, “What?! So everyone’s the same? You’re all too soft! (笑)”
I’d like to become the kind of man who can provide enough support that he doesn’t get asked for more—like 壮絶パパ活紳士様, who even made a card, or 斉藤さん and マックさん. But for now, it’s probably just wishful thinking. (涙)
Since everyone seems to be pretty softhearted, I feel reassured and plan to keep enjoying this within my means.
Next time something like that comes up, maybe I’ll try negotiating over the request. (笑)
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Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here as well.
Thanks for requesting me. (Haha)
I don’t have a strong opinion about how things should be, but I can’t really picture a situation where someone says, “Things are a little tight this month… Could you support me with a bit more than usual?” (Haha)
Normally, I would think the more common approach would be something like, “Things are tight this month. Could we meet sometime this week?”—in other words, increasing the number of meetings.
In that case, I think it would work well for both of you to make time for her, have your usual date, and increase the allowance.
With that in mind, in the situation described in the question, suggesting that you meet one more time next week could be perfectly reasonable. And if the man can afford it, I think there’s nothing wrong with granting her request.
Besides, if a woman you really like makes a cute request, you’d probably end up paying anyway. If she’s someone you meet regularly, you presumably like her, so I imagine that’s how things would go—but what do you think?
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