I’m Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office, adding a follow-up.
Since cola came up, I couldn’t help wondering:
“Is this about *How to Sell a ¥100 Cola for ¥1,000*?”
There are places that sell the exact same cola you can buy for ¥100 for ¥1,000.
The Ritz-Carlton, for example.
If you order a cola through room service, 15 minutes later it arrives on a silver tray, served in a crystal glass at the ideal temperature, with lime and ice.
It’s the same ordinary drink inside, yet it’s presented as an exceptionally delicious beverage, and the person drinking it is happy to pay ¥1,000.
The Ritz-Carlton isn’t selling a cola product—they’re providing the experience of enjoying an incredibly delicious cola in a comfortable setting.
That’s the kind of thing I thought this was about.
I wondered if the point was that women should do something similar, but perhaps I was reading too much into it.
I just happened to think, “Is this about cola?” and felt compelled to add a follow-up.
My apologies.
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I’m BB7, a male member.
When people on Twitter and other social media start promoting things like “20,000 yen for dinner,” does that eventually become the standard before you know it?
Sometimes I wonder whether it’s being orchestrated by the allowance-hike crowd—scouts and female affiliate marketers, for example.
Is simply having dinner with a young woman really worth 10,000, 20,000, 50,000, or even 100,000 yen? Is it really normal to think that a single glass of Coke should cost 5,000 or 10,000 yen?
There are plenty of people who can’t even earn 10,000 yen working eight hours a day. I sometimes self-deprecatingly think that there’s no end to how distorted people’s sense of money can become.
I usually offer 10,000 yen. Since I pay for dinner as well, the man is actually paying more than that.
I don’t want to meet women who try to charge even more on their own initiative, or who would consider me stingy for that—unless they themselves are business owners or otherwise earn a substantial income.
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I’m Joe, a column writer.
My standard allowance is 20,000 yen. We often meet late, and I feel bad sending her home by train. Since 10,000 yen doesn’t seem quite enough if she has to take a taxi, I choose to give 20,000 yen voluntarily, I suppose.
If we meet during the day or earlier, it’s 10,000 yen.
There was one time when she asked for more than 20,000 yen, but for some reason, I thought, “There won’t be a second time,” and that was that (lol).
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I’m Saito, a column writer♪
I offer 2, but I’ve never had the other person negotiate or quote me a different amount.
If they did quote me a price instead…
It sounds like a hassle, so I’d probably just pay them willingly and say goodbye.
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Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here as well.
If a woman says she wants “2” for the first date arranged through Universe, that’s against the rules. She could ultimately be forcibly removed from the club, so please either let her know or report it to the club as is.
It’s fine if the man voluntarily offers 2 or 3—and women are allowed to accept it. However, women aren’t allowed to ask for that amount.
The rule is 5,000–10,000 yen.
If you’re discussing terms for the second meeting onward, that falls under a transactional relationship, so the two of you are free to negotiate.
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I’m in my 60s and still trying to find my way.
It’s hard to say without knowing where you’re active, but I’m also active outside the major cities, and I met someone like that for the first time just the other day.
I did think, “Wow, they’re pretty bold…” Still, there are plenty of people who aren’t like that, so I wouldn’t say they’re becoming more common.
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I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
> Doesn’t it seem like more and more girls lately are asking for “2” even for dinner only?
I haven’t been going on first meetings lately, so I’m not really sure.
But it makes me think, “What are they thinking?” (laughs)
I wish they’d keep the jokes within reason.
If someone has a completely different attitude toward money, I’d appreciate it if they could find success in a different world.
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