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Oct 6, 2019 00:41
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I’m a male member. For the sake of maintaining a good impression, I’d appreciate it if Mr. Mack would refrain from answering.
There is currently a B-type girl who has also progressed to an adult relationship with me.
She apparently became uncomfortable with the idea of being intimate with anyone other than me and consulted the staff about quitting the club.
However, the staff talked her around, didn’t give her the option of quitting, and persuaded her to continue as an A-type. A few months later, she had apparently switched back to B-type.
I haven’t asked her yet why she really switched back to B-type, but isn’t it ethically problematic for the staff to persuade women to stay rather than let them quit like this?
I understand that, since she’s popular, they don’t want her to leave because they want to increase the number of offers, but…
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I’m Saito, the columnist♪
Perhaps she didn’t want intimacy, but still hoped to receive offers from men willing to give her money. Since offers stopped coming when she was Type A, maybe she switched back to Type B.
You’re important to her too, but it’s reasonable to assume that she’s looking for men who are at least your equal—or better, if possible.
I think it’s fair to assume that she simply wants more money.
Sorry my answer is similar to everyone else’s.
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👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the Business Planning Office here as well.
Since we don’t know who the woman is, posting this kind of question here won’t resolve anything.
We don’t know whether she really consulted the club, and even if she did, we don’t know whether she had no choice but to quit.
Since this isn’t a consultation directly from the person involved, I believe what you heard from the woman is true—but I have no way of knowing whether the details themselves are true.
So this amounts to giving a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical story.
That said, assuming we go along with the hypothetical situation:
At Universe Club, you can withdraw whenever you want. There’s no point at which you’re not allowed to quit, and there are no penalties. You’re free to leave, and even after withdrawing, you’re free to register again.
> She apparently started disliking the idea of her seeing other men besides me, so she consulted the staff about quitting the club.
I suspect that’s simply what the woman is telling you.
Men would be happy to hear that kind of thing, wouldn’t they?
A woman trying to quit for your sake would probably raise her value considerably in your eyes. But in reality, she doesn’t actually want to quit. So what does she do?
She blames the club, and everything works out smoothly.
Universe Club is understanding about this, so our stance is that it’s okay to blame the club if that helps things go well with the man.
That’s how women-friendly Universe Club is.
Now, suppose instead that the man told her to quit.
In that case, the club asks why she wants to leave. If she says it’s because the man told her to, we may think, “That man should be forcibly removed from the club.” However, if the woman asks us not to tell him, we can’t forcibly remove him.
But the woman is still in a difficult position.
So we might advise her along the lines of: “If you change to Dating Type A, you’ll only have dinner with men and won’t have adult relationships with anyone else, so perhaps he won’t get angry?”
It’s possible that this is why she had selected Type A.
Of course, this is only speculation about a hypothetical story, so we don’t know what really happened. But that seems like a plausible explanation.
If the woman identified the club by name and told us which branch and which staff member did what, we would investigate.
But regarding this particular story, I feel it may actually be better for both of you not to know the full truth.
Other
I’m Rura, a UC male member and a member of the new salon.
(Personal note)
I’m still a member until November 10, so I’ll keep answering questions until then.
As for “the staff persuading the woman and encouraging her not to quit,” if she has repeatedly and clearly expressed her intention to leave, yet the Universe Club still refuses to let her withdraw, I believe that would be ethically problematic.
However, in my experience, when a woman clearly expresses her wishes, the club will proceed with her withdrawal. I’ve had something similar happen.
A woman once told me, “I don’t want to have sex with anyone except you,” and asked, “Is it okay if I tell the club I want to quit?” I replied, “Then go ahead and withdraw.” By the next day, it appeared that she had left—or at least, I could no longer find her in the women’s search.
That said, as you seem to understand to some extent, it’s possible that the club may try some light persuasion.
For example, in one case I heard about, a woman said:
“I have about two million yen in debt, so I joined a dating club to pay it off. Luckily, I found a wonderful man who meets me twice a month and pays me 200,000 yen under a monthly arrangement. I don’t want to have sex with any other men, so I want to withdraw.”
The staff apparently responded with something along the lines of:
“If you’re only meeting him twice a month, wouldn’t it be possible to pay off your debt in half the time if you found one more gentleman just as wonderful as him? Sex with someone you like is certainly nice, but why not continue with the club and treat it as a transactional relationship so you can repay your debt sooner? During the adult relationship, you can simply close your eyes or endure it for a little while—the encounter will be over before you know it.”
The woman didn’t want to have sex with men she didn’t even like, and she was happy with her current partner. Besides, she figured her debt would be gone in ten months. She firmly stated that she wanted to withdraw, and apparently she was able to do so without any problems.
With all that in mind, regarding this particular case, I’m afraid to say this, but I think it’s quite possible that the woman you’re seeing has not expressed her intention to withdraw quite clearly enough.
Even if her true feelings are that she doesn’t want to be intimate with anyone other than you, there are also cases where a woman thinks, “I don’t want to do it, but I’m willing to treat it as transactional dating in order to reach my goal.” Perhaps the staff persuaded her along those lines.
Also, I doubt the club would switch her from A back to B without her consent, so I assume she accepted and chose that option to some extent.
Given the circumstances, I would suggest saying something like this to her:
“I see. The club persuaded you, so instead of processing your withdrawal, you went back to B. I understand. But I wanted to ask you something again—are you getting enough allowance each month? I’m honestly really happy that you said you want to focus on just me. If increasing my support would mean you wouldn’t have to stay registered or go back to B against your wishes, I’ll help as much as I can.”
I have a feeling that if you increase the allowance, she may proceed with withdrawing.
If that amount would be too much for you, though, I think it would be best to turn a blind eye even if she remains registered or eventually becomes a D-type.
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
> I heard she consulted the staff about leaving the club. However, the staff talked her around, didn’t give her the option to quit, and persuaded her to continue as a Type A member. A few months later, she had switched back to Type B.
I assume this woman must have had a very compelling reason to remain with the club and switch back to Type B.
First of all, I personally know several women who have left the club, so I had assumed that if someone wanted to quit, she would be allowed to do so.
Also, since re-registering appears to be possible, I would think that could be done smoothly without any problem.
> Isn’t it ethically problematic for staff to persuade women not to leave in this way?
First, I think we should ask her directly why she didn’t leave the club and why she switched her dating type back to B, and confirm the facts based on her true feelings.
If the staff really did persuade her to stay, I would like to hear the response from the branch where she is registered or from the club itself.