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Sep 19, 2019 16:38
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When I go on dates with women whose relationship type is B, I invite them to continue the date after dinner, even on the first date. I offer a standard allowance, and just under 40% have agreed.
Since this was how things went with the first woman I dated, I’ve continued making the invitation from the first date as if it were the norm.
Would this be considered ungentlemanly or inappropriate behavior from the club’s perspective?
I seem to remember seeing an opinion along these lines before, so I’m posting this to confirm.
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Other
I’m Rula, a male member of UC and the new salon.
As other respondents have already pointed out, please stop inviting B-type women from the very first meeting as though it were the most natural thing in the world. It isn’t gentlemanly.
I’m not saying this applies to you specifically, but as a general observation, there are sometimes men who say things like, “I got a B-type woman to agree to an adult relationship right from the first meeting!” or, “I invited an A-type woman and she was fine with it in my case☆”
I understand that, for men, whether a relationship with a woman can progress beyond dinner is a fairly important factor, so it’s only natural for their attention to focus on that.
However, from comments like those above—and from your own wording about inviting her “as a matter of course”—I get the impression that you may be thinking, “Isn’t it impressive that I managed to win over such a difficult woman?” Personally, I feel that’s inappropriate.
Of course, once two people have met, they’re free to pursue a relationship as they wish. A D-type woman may decide she doesn’t want an adult relationship at the first meeting with a particular man, while an A-type woman may feel, “If it’s him, I’d actually like him to invite me right away.”
That said, inviting an A- or B-type woman from the first meeting should be limited to extremely rare, exceptional cases where the two of you genuinely click and the atmosphere is just right.
So please don’t ever treat it as something “normal.” Don’t do it.
In my own experience, there have been two occasions when I hit it off with a B-type woman and we were getting along well. I had decided not to invite her because she was B-type and it was our first meeting, but afterward she gave me hints that she wanted to continue spending time together. I picked up on the atmosphere, invited her, and she agreed.
However, I’ve met around 20 B-type women so far, so those cases are quite rare.
I’m sure you didn’t mean any harm, but I hope you’ll keep this in mind.
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Maezawa from Shacho-shitsu here.
I once received a complaint from a woman about the relationship-type system.
She said, “I’m relationship type B, but he kept asking me out even after I turned him down repeatedly. What’s the point of having relationship types?”
She had a valid point.
Apparently, the person who asked her out was willing to accept it about 40% of the time, but more than 60% of the women may have felt uncomfortable.
So, to avoid making people wonder what the point of the relationship types is, I think that if you want to invite someone out from the very first day, you should offer to meet women who are relationship type C or D.
Other
I’m BB7, a male member.
I feel that even among women who are classified as Type B, there are two kinds: those who lean more toward Type A and those who lean more toward Type C.
Looking back at the Type B women I’ve met, some were very guarded and firmly believed the first meeting should always be dinner only, while others readily agreed when I invited them. I think the figure of just under 40% saying yes is roughly in line with that.
Some Type B women actively approach men themselves, and sometimes the atmosphere becomes very comfortable, so in those cases I’ll make an invitation too. On the other hand, if we don’t really hit it off or she seems very guarded, I’ll part ways after dinner only on the first meeting.
I think that’s why the “B” in Type B stands for “borderline”—you have to read the atmosphere and figure out where things stand.
Since this is a dating club, I don’t think it’s inherently ungentlemanly to make a gentlemanly invitation on the first meeting, even with a Type B woman. However, the club explains to women that the first meeting is always dinner only, so in principle, I assume it’s supposed to be dinner only.
That said, some Type B women write on their profiles, “Basically, the first meeting is dinner only, but if he’s exceptionally great, I might be open to more even on the first meeting…” So there really are individual differences.
Those differences among both male and female members are another reason I think Type B is rather ambiguous.
Of course, persistently pressuring someone who is clearly uncomfortable, making a forceful invitation, or getting angry after being turned down is not gentlemanly behavior and would be grounds for a complaint—not limited to Type B women.
Sorry for such an ambiguous answer.
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Former Universe member
I’m a lost man in my 60s.
What do you think about saying “as though it were only natural”...?
It seems rather inconsiderate toward women registered as Type B. Kind-hearted women often find it difficult to say no.
Do you ever think about how women feel when they reluctantly accept your invitation—or when they don’t receive one at all?
If you’re making them feel like leaving the club, that’s a serious inconvenience for the other male members...
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Universe member
I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
> On dates with women who have a Dating Type B, I invite them to continue things after dinner from the very first meeting.
You must be quite the dashing gentleman—in other words, the kind of man women find attractive.
That’s probably why even women who are Type B say “OK!” because they want to move things along as soon as possible!
“Dating Type B” is simply a woman’s usual stance toward the average male member. But when the man in front of her is a genuinely great guy, as they say, “A woman’s feelings are as changeable as the autumn sky.” So it wouldn’t be surprising if her stance shifted to Type C or even Type D. (laughs)
That said, it’s still best to keep in mind that the woman in front of you is, officially, a “Dating Type B.”
If you push too hard, you might end up being reported with a complaint like, “There’s a male member whose eyes are practically bulging out of his head.” (laughs)
So keep a relaxed attitude, make sure your wallet is well stocked, and do your best to enjoy your dates! (laughs)