Tips Sep 2, 2019 17:14

I was surprised to see the President’s Office state so categorically in its response about Type B women: “The issue is the third date. If she turns you down at that point, it will be considered dating-type fraud.”

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Isn’t that going too far? (By the way, I’ve waited until the eighth date before. It wasn’t painful for me, and I certainly never felt that I’d been scammed.)
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I’m Maezawa from the President’s Office, and I’ll answer this as well. > Isn’t that going too far? The term “dating-type scam” became common because male members would send numerous complaints to the club after a date, saying things like, “This woman lied about her dating type. It’s fraud—force her to leave the club and refund my setup fee.” Some men meet a Type B woman and call it a dating-type scam after the very first date, while others make the same complaint after the second date. In response, we tell them that it isn’t fraud simply because they didn’t enter into a free romantic relationship with a Type B woman on the first date. We say the same thing even if it was the second date. However, if the situation is still the same after the third date, then I tend to think the man may have a point and apologize. (I still won’t issue a refund, though ><) That’s why we use the third date as the point of judgment. Of course, men who are willing to wait until the eighth date won’t file a complaint. In that case, even if nothing happens by the third date, there’s no complaint for the club to receive, so we wouldn’t know about it. And if we don’t know, there’s no need to decide whether it was a scam. If both people are happy to keep seeing each other, then there’s no problem at all. The issue is deciding at what point to make a judgment when an angry man contacts the club to complain. I simply think that point is probably the third date. There may be staff members who push back and say, “Maybe it isn’t a scam even after eight dates. This woman is a genuine Type B, so isn’t the man the one being unreasonable?” But I doubt they would get much agreement. If you want to wait until you’ve met around eight times before deciding, I think it would be better to choose Type A.
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I’m BB7, a male member in my late 40s. Even if things don’t work out by the third meeting, I don’t consider it a scam. If the conversation is interesting, I might continue meeting her for dinner only (no intimacy), and if I feel it’s just a waste of time, I simply won’t meet her again… That said, I’ve never met anyone more than three times for dinner only either. I tend to assume that if she isn’t prepared to continue, she’s simply declining me. I think it’s perfectly fine to accept that there are all kinds of male members as well.
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I’m Date◎Yume, a male member. “Relationship-type scams” are, as always, incredibly interesting—and entertaining. I think everyone’s comments are spot-on. That said… As the saying goes, “Three strikes, and you’re out!” So I think three times is just right, don’t you?(笑)
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I’m Saito, a columnist♪ If it didn’t feel unpleasant, I think that’s all that matters, don’t you? After all, Club Type B includes all kinds of people. lol If the policy is, “It’s okay if nothing develops even after meeting eight times,” I’m sure quite a few men would complain… I think it would be better to phrase it as, “There are also male members who don’t mind if nothing develops even after eight meetings.”
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