Personally, I think it’s best to send “You’re lovely” only to men who have favorited you, with no additional message.
When I imagine someone logging into the club site enough to write out a message, it honestly puts me off quite a bit.
If it’s from a woman who hasn’t even favorited me, it has absolutely no effect. Even among women I’ve favorited, the chances of me making an offer are pretty low…
Being overly proactive can backfire.
I prefer to avoid pros, so the very fact that she’s taking the time to compose a message makes her seem too professional to me.
Also, almost every stunning beauty—what the “Loser Guy” crowd would call an absolute bombshell—replies with just “You’re lovely!” and no comment.
The women I’ve favorited who aren’t quite at that level always include a comment in their reply, so it seems like women themselves understand that distinction pretty well.
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Personally, I’m not particularly negative about “You seem wonderful.”
I do take notice when a woman I’ve added to my favorites sends me that message. That said, there are also women who sent “You seem wonderful,” so I made them an offer, but the subject never came up once during the date.
If it were a 500-character message, it would definitely help her stand out from the other women, so I think it’s an interesting strategy.
Come to think of it, I did notice recently when someone asked about a club name that’s been making the rounds lately—the one associated with an automotive company.
Actually, she had sent me a “You seem wonderful” message.
I thought she seemed attractive, but I don’t make offers to local women, so I’m not interested in pursuing it…
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Your goal is to have him want to meet you very much, right?
And you’re thinking that he probably wouldn’t meet you if your message were limited to 200 characters, but might if you could send 500 characters—is that correct?
If the staff member thinks you’re the type of person this man would like, they’ll probably forward a 500-character message. But if they don’t think you’re his type, they’ll most likely just tell you to keep it within 200 characters as usual.
If I were working there, I’d actually love that kind of thing, so I might forward the full 500 characters while saying, “I can’t guarantee that he’ll make an offer, though.”
That said, realistically, even sending a 500-character message is more likely not to lead to an offer.
If you’re saying, “If you’d send it if you were there, then please send it,” I’ll make an exception and forward it. First, could you write in your LINE conversation with the staff, “I contacted you through the question box regarding Mr. Maezawa”?
Depending on the staff member, your message might be ignored, but more often than not, it gets passed on to me.
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LOL. Even 200 messages is already overwhelming, so if I got twice that many, I definitely wouldn’t make any offers.
Fuu has stopped showing messages to people who’ve added them to their favorites.
In the end, I want to choose women I’m personally attracted to, so even when women I wasn’t interested in sent me a favorite message, I never made them an offer.
What matters is whether she’s my type. The favorites feature is helpful, but only marginally better than not having it.
I guess if a woman I like, who’s already in a papa’s favorites list, messages him, he might make her an offer.
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If you were active in the club long enough to receive a cumulative 30 million yen in allowances, you probably know at least one staff member who could send it to you if you asked.
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Find the same men and send them reverse offers through PATOLO.
PATOLO’s “reverse offer” feature is something women pay to use. Just because a man has paid for the service does not mean he will automatically receive reverse offers from women.
Here’s how it works:
• Basic use is free for women (registration, browsing, and sending messages are free).
• A reverse offer means a woman sends a “date request” to a man. She pays ¥1,000–¥10,000 herself for this, with the amount up to her.
• That payment is used to cover part of the platform fee that the man would normally pay.
In other words, it’s not “paying means women can—or will—send you reverse offers.”
• A woman only pays when she personally wants to request a date with someone she’d like to meet.
• Even if she messages first, she won’t be charged for a reverse offer if the man ultimately sends the date request.
The man’s monthly fee (around ¥11,000, for example) is simply a membership fee for using the service—it isn’t a switch that increases the number of reverse offers he receives. Whether women contact him depends on his profile, photos, and level of activity.
The official site and explanatory articles also state that women can use the service for free unless they use a reverse offer, and that starting a chat is free while only requesting a date costs money. Check the official site for the latest fees and terms.
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