I have a question about PATLO’s Order Date feature.
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I messaged a woman I’m interested in, but it’s been over a month and she still hasn’t even read the message. She logs in about once or twice a week. Would it be better to apply for an Order Date instead?
Also, regarding a different woman: I sent her a message, and it was marked as read, but she never replied. She also hasn’t logged in at all since registering with PATLO. Even if someone hardly logs in to PATLO, can an Order Date still be arranged if I apply?
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I’m guessing the first message you sent was pretty awful.
In that case, even if you apply for an order date now, I think it’s probably too late. You’d be better off looking for someone else and applying for an order date from the start, without sending any messages yourself.
But you’re the person who said you previously made an offer through Universe and were turned down, right? If you were rejected on Universe and aren’t getting any replies on PATOLO either, I have to wonder whether you’ve written something really strange in your profile.
I think it would be helpful if you told us what you wrote. My feeling is that the problem may be your profile.
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I can’t really say without knowing the details, but since this is basically the online version of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), it’s pretty common not to get a reply.
There could be all kinds of reasons on her end:
- She only replies to popular papas (male supporters) who seem generous (well-paying) and offer good terms
- She had a bad first meeting with a papa and is thinking of quitting, and so on
Rather than focusing on just one person, I’d recommend messaging other women and going out with someone who responds well.
Women who reply promptly are generally good people (according to Fuu’s research). They’re usually more motivated, so you’re more likely to have a good experience.
That said, if you’re messaging multiple women and still getting left on read a lot, consider possibilities like:
- “Your messages are creepy”
- “The allowance you’re offering is too low”
So take a step back and analyze yourself objectively.
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Patro’s auto-date option is the best value, so even if I find someone on Univa, I usually search for her on Patro first. But sometimes she isn’t on Patro, so I recently made an offer through Univa.
When I searched again later, I found her on Patro, so I sent her a message, but it was never read.
Just when I thought we probably weren’t meant to connect, the arrangement through Univa was set up right away. I made the offer early in the morning, met her that night, and had an adult relationship.
When I told her, “I sent you a message on Patro,” she said she hadn’t seen it because she had registered with Univa.
I couldn’t tell whether we were meant to connect or not, but maybe this was a bad connection that could end up costing me money in all sorts of ways.
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I’ve never used Patro’s order-date service, so take this with a grain of salt, but it might be worth making an offer as a long shot. That said, if you’re charged an order-setting fee even when no date is arranged, I’d advise against it.
With Universe, one advantage is that your coordinator gets to know you to some extent and can recommend suitable women. With Patro, you generally can’t expect that, so you’ll need to carefully review your profile and make it appealing enough that women will want to accept your offer.
Polishing your profile and refining your messages are both free, so I’d suggest doing everything you can first—and then seeing where it takes you.
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If a woman doesn’t seem interested, then even if you do manage to meet her, there probably won’t be any real connection.
I think it was last month. I found a really promising black-listed girl, but she turned me down at first. I carefully rewrote my profile and tried again, and she accepted, so we met.
I was hoping she might become my monthly arrangement, so we went on several dinner dates (B1). But around the time we had our first adult relationship date planned, I somehow lost interest and ended things myself.
A woman you have no connection with really is someone you have no connection with. In real-life dating, it can sometimes be important not to give up even after being rejected repeatedly. But in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), it’s better to accept it and move on to the next person. That’s what a papa (a male supporter) who likes women with strong jawlines once told me.
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Technically, you can.
But personally, I wouldn’t make an offer to a woman who doesn’t respond to messages or show up. It’s a buyer’s market, with men in the stronger position, so why not reach out to someone else? If the woman you’re interested in replies in the meantime, you can always consider her then.
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To put it simply, you can request an order date at any time, regardless of whether the other person is currently logging in.
As for the different situations: if a woman logs in once or twice a week but never marks your messages as read, she may simply not be checking them. It’s also common for her to receive so many messages that she can’t respond to all of them.
Unlike sending her a direct message, when you request an order date, the club managing the service contacts her directly with the offer. This means she doesn’t have to find you among a large number of messages, so the chances of making a match are higher.
Of course, there’s still a possibility that she may decline. However, compared with continuing to wait anxiously without even knowing whether she’s read your message, the major advantage is that you’ll get a clear answer and be able to move on more easily.
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