The other day, I had dinner with a B2-type woman and we exchanged contact information. Later, I invited her on a second date, and she agreed. When I asked about her terms, she said she’d meet for dinner if I paid an allowance of 30,000 yen. I told her that the terms didn’t work for me, so she said, “Then 20,000 yen is fine.”
When I told her it would be difficult for me to pay an allowance just for dinner, she lashed out, saying, “Being an older guy must be tough. I’m glad I didn’t have to meet you again anyway.” (lol)
If she’s a B2 type and isn’t open to an adult relationship (intimate), I wish she wouldn’t agree to a second date in the first place.
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True, if someone says they’ll pay ¥30,000 or ¥20,000 for dinner and then says something unpleasant, it’s only natural to get angry.
If you’re only offering ¥10,000 for dinner, it might be best to state that non-negotiable condition upfront when you invite her out a second time: “For dinner, I’d like to offer ¥10,000.” Otherwise, it’s just a waste of time and effort for both of you.
And if the same thing happened to me, I’d honestly think, “Good—I’ve saved myself the time, effort, and energy of meeting an unpleasant woman.”
Basically, papa-katsu is a male-dominated market, so you can cut things off whenever you want and move on without any trouble. Don’t worry!!
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The questioner may not have realized it, but in that case, saying “an allowance of 30,000 (20,000) yen for dinner” meant she had decided that an intimate relationship wasn’t happening on the first date. So, from the perspective of a B2 woman, her response wasn’t necessarily wrong. You should have read between the lines and backed off immediately—even if that meant deleting the message without reading it. By pursuing her further, you only made things worse for yourself. Take it as a lesson.
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I understand why you’re upset about being verbally abused, but if you can’t accept women with a B-type profile turning down an adult relationship, then you simply shouldn’t make offers to B-types.
Fuu only makes offers to C-types because I want to know from the first meeting whether it’s going to happen.
Even among C-types, there are occasionally “tea-and-meal girls” who make their allowance at the initial first meeting without any adult relationship. It shouldn’t be too hard to imagine that there are even more of them hiding among the B-types.
One thing you also need to be careful about is that you may not realize how much you’re blaming others. The fact that the person asking this question refuses to deal with someone unless even dinner-only is at least 30,000 yen suggests you might be a pretty pathetic papa (a male supporter). Your lack of cleanliness, the way you speak and act, and even the wording of this question give off that impression.
Unlike the sex industry, in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), women choose their papas. Unless your basic negative points can somehow be offset by your money power, you need to at least reach the level where you can make a woman feel that being with you is worthwhile. Otherwise, you won’t be able to enjoy papa-katsu here.
Or you could just use overwhelming money power—one or the other, lol.
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> Wouldn’t it be better if men could choose a dating type as well?
I honestly feel the same way.
There seem to be quite a few men who want to become intimate with a woman they genuinely like—someone so wonderful that they’d even want to give her an allowance for a dinner date.
If every meeting with a C-type woman automatically means an adult relationship (intimate), some men may gradually lose interest in meeting her unless she’s truly exceptional.
When she’s someone they enjoy having meals and dates with, they may want the relationship to progress further. And because they don’t know until the date unfolds whether they’ll end up going to a hotel that day, they may naturally start feeling like they want to. The excitement and anticipation also build because intimacy isn’t predetermined…
Since neither person is being blatantly focused only on sex or the allowance, they can enjoy their time together, and if things do progress, the sense of comfort, trust, emotional closeness, and excitement reaches another level—something no other arrangement can match.
Taking things slowly…
Or perhaps it’s a “mature over time” type…
Where the relationship and sense of security become the foreplay…
Or maybe it’s simply that they don’t want someone who’s only after sex or the allowance.
Could this be what a B1 type is meant to be? Who knows…
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For B2, that’s pretty normal. Though ending with a parting shot probably wasn’t the best move. The samurai’s mercy is to leave it at read and not respond.
Basically, I think her main aim is to earn an allowance from dinner-only dates. If you can enjoy having a meal and talking together, then 30,000 or 20,000 yen seems reasonable.
If the basic premise of the date is an adult relationship (intimate), then offering C or D is the safest bet. B2 includes quite a few dinner-only types. Even if you spend about two hours having a pleasant meal, pay 30,000 yen for transportation, and then part ways, it’s still cheaper than a Ginza hostess club. Assuming she’s worth that much, of course.
Personally, I’m starting to think B2 can be worthwhile too. I did happen to meet a really nice girl through B2.
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I don’t think it’s right to use abusive language. Try to look at it positively—you were able to make your judgment before moving on to a second date.
If someone with a B2 profile says they’ll only meet for dinner on the second date, that’s usually a polite way of declining, so it’s best to step back gracefully.
To put it bluntly, that person simply wasn’t looking for an adult relationship (intimate) with you. I don’t think it necessarily had anything to do with being B2. Whether they’re B2 or C type, women have every right to decline.
So, in conclusion, yes, it absolutely happens: not moving on to an adult relationship (intimate) on the second date, having no intention of doing so, or not agreeing on the terms of the arrangement.
That’s why it’s best to make plenty of offers and hopefully find someone with whom you can build a mutually satisfying relationship.
Hope this helps.
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I had dinner with a B1 “black” girl who leaned more toward A four times, and we had an adult date planned for next time. But I suddenly lost interest and ended things with her over LINE.
She may have thought, “Don’t have dinner with me four times and get my hopes up about an allowance if you never intended to go through with it!” It’s not that I had no intention of doing so—I did, but my feelings suddenly cooled off.
Maybe the same thing happened with the person the questioner was seeing. She was interested at first, but after a few days had passed since their first meeting, perhaps she simply turned into a frog.
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I imagine she’s also making time in her busy schedule to go on a second date, but sometimes the chemistry just doesn’t click by the second meeting.
I think one of the appeals of an escort club is gradually getting to know each other and developing that chemistry over multiple dates.
To prevent differences in expectations, I feel it would be helpful if men could also specify their preferred relationship type.
Personally, I absolutely love the excitement of a first meeting with someone wonderful whose photos and videos I’ve seen beforehand. And being able to meet her for just transportation costs feels like a great deal. If she’s wonderful and we click, I do make sure to give her something extra.
Sorry for going off topic. The fact that you were able to invite her out a second time is probably a big deal. It doesn’t necessarily mean she dislikes you, so I feel it may be worth trying for a third date.
That said, it depends on whether she’s someone you feel passionate enough about to keep pursuing...
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Since it’s phrased as “I can’t help but think,” it feels like they were simply expressing their own opinion. They should’ve written it on a blog or something.
By the way, when someone says, “If you’re a B2 type and can’t consider an adult relationship (intimate),” I can’t help but think it might actually mean, “I considered an adult relationship, but it wasn’t possible with this person…”
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