I’m going on a three-day, two-night trip with a papa who loves to travel.

What to be careful about really depends on the relationship you’ve built with your papa (a male supporter), so it’s hard to say for sure. I think it also depends quite a bit on how often you’ve been seeing each other over the past year or so and how much of your true selves you usually show each other. So if you’re both still putting on somewhat of a front, it might be more peaceful not to force yourselves to reveal everything on your first trip and to keep a little of that “best behavior” feeling—in a good way. As for the allowance, the situation this time was: “You mentioned wanting to go somewhere” ↓ “He got excited and planned the trip” Because of that, I feel there are plenty of men who would assume, unless you confirm otherwise, that there won’t be any allowance this time since he’s covering the travel expenses. On the other hand, there are also men who genuinely intend to give you the usual allowance and simply assume that goes without saying, so it’s honestly hard to tell. Personally, if it’s really bothering you, I think it’s perfectly fine to ask in a gentle way, like: “It’s a two-night trip, but the usual arrangement is fine too ☺️” However, if his mood obviously drops when you bring it up, he may be someone who continues to leave you feeling uneasy about money. If he usually makes you feel valued through thoughtfulness and gifts in addition to the allowance, I’d personally try not to focus too much on the exact terms and instead enjoy the trip itself 😊 I hope you have a wonderful first trip together.

I recently made an offer to an A-type woman who lives 550 km away because I wanted to connect with her. We won’t have an adult relationship (intimate), but she’ll be staying for two nights at my place. Since this will also be our first meeting, I’ve gone over every detail of the terms of the arrangement and we’ve reached an agreement. - I obviously won’t pressure her for an adult relationship, and I won’t even hold her hand during the date. - She can bring her boyfriend or a friend if she wants. - The date will be paid hourly—time spent together multiplied by the agreed hourly rate. - If she stays overnight, we’ll sleep in separate rooms. - Aside from her allowance, she can spend as much as she likes on the date itself. - I can drive her female friends or others wherever they need to go. - When we’re traveling by car, she’ll sit in the back to prevent anyone from identifying her. - How her luggage will be handled. - Information about the amenities available. - Sending the allowance in advance—which I’ve already done. I’ve proactively addressed every possible concern she might have, one by one. I think I’ve covered almost everything, but I’m doing one final check to make sure I haven’t missed anything. If I were the papa (a male supporter) in question, I’d eliminate every source of anxiety before the trip—without overlooking even the tiniest detail. While confirming everything, I’d keep discussing it with her over LINE, adding just enough humor to prevent things from becoming awkward. The planning itself is part of escorting her, so I’d never do anything that might ruin the atmosphere. What I’m doing is just “normal” to me. It’s easy to imagine how stressful spending a long time with a papa can be for a woman, so I’ll do anything I can to reduce that stress. As for the allowance, which is likely to be the biggest source of anxiety, I’ve already sent it in advance, and I’ve also told her that I’ll hand over the date money as soon as we meet for the first time. What I want to say to all papas is: don’t prioritize your own mood and push things forward accordingly. Almost no woman meets a papa without feeling some anxiety, so in addition to paying the allowance, please explain everything else she might be concerned about. Thoroughly putting her first is the only way to go. “I’m giving her money, so obviously I should come first” is completely out of the question.

I’d ask whether he prefers a suite or two single rooms. If you’re not used to this, two single rooms will feel more comfortable. With a monthly arrangement, the allowance is more of a goodwill gesture, but with pay-per-meeting, I’d say an allowance is a given.

If you ended up going on the trip after saying something like, “I’d love to take a trip like yours someday,” the papa may think that covering your wish—and paying for the travel, meals, and other expenses—is essentially your allowance. Of course, if the trip itself is exactly what you wanted, you may be fine letting him handle everything without receiving an allowance. However, once you go on one trip without an allowance, he may invite you on future trips on the assumption that there won’t be one either. For that reason, I think you should ask beforehand how much the allowance will be for the trip. He might get upset and cancel, but if you want an allowance, you should be clear about that... If you ended up going on the trip after saying something like, “I’d love to take a trip like yours someday,” the papa may think that covering your wish—and paying for the travel, meals, and other expenses—is essentially your allowance. Of course, if the trip itself is exactly what you wanted, you may be fine letting him handle everything without receiving an allowance. However, once you go on one trip without an allowance, he may invite you on future trips on the assumption that there won’t be one either. For that reason, I think you should ask beforehand how much the allowance will be for the trip. He might get upset and cancel, but if you’re considering the trip part of your papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) arrangement, I think it’s better to clarify this. Of course, if you still want to go on the trip without an allowance, you can leave things as they are this time and bring up the allowance when he invites you again.

The answer lies within you. If an adult relationship (intimate) is involved, it would probably be best to make it clear that you expect an allowance. Otherwise, from now on, “no allowance” may become the default whenever you travel together. That said, if you’re willing to accept that because you value the relationship itself, then it may work out. If this papa (a male supporter) leaves you exhausted after just one day, two nights might be a bit much. Personally, I think one night is about the limit for Fuu to really enjoy an overnight trip. Still, everything is an experience, so maybe you’ll have to go and see how it feels. You might actually have fun...

If it’s someone you genuinely want to travel with, I think you should go. If you’re going to spend the whole time worrying about the allowance, you probably won’t be able to enjoy the trip. In my case, I never discuss the allowance when traveling. I don’t really see the point of going on a trip if we have to negotiate the allowance beforehand. If it’s a transactional relationship, though, I suppose it’s understandable to talk about it… Also, I don’t decide in advance that we’ll have an adult relationship just because we’re going on a trip. So the amount the woman receives may vary, and you won’t know until you actually go. If you’re having fun, just enjoy the trip to the fullest. You can always have an adult relationship later, once you’re back, since you can do that anywhere! > If he’s someone who truly cherishes you, > I’d try not to focus too much on the specific terms and just enjoy the trip itself 😊 That’s the way to go! For a first trip together, you could have an adult relationship, but if you’re staying two nights and having a great time, the evenings will fly by. Add some drinks, and the night will pass even faster. You could make it such an enjoyable trip that you barely even have time for an adult relationship! That’s what makes the trip worth taking—and even if you don’t have time, getting that caught up in the moment can heighten the excitement even more…

In my case, it’s ¥50,000 multiplied by the number of nights—the usual pay-per-meeting allowance—but these days I tell them the amount beforehand. I once took three girls overseas. At the time, we never decided on an allowance, and the trip ended without me giving them anything at all. None of the three brought it up. I had only recently started papa-katsu and had no experience traveling with anyone, and since the trip itself had cost quite a lot, I assumed it was only natural that there would be no allowance. Of course, I had an adult relationship with all of them. I booked two suites and made them connecting rooms. After the four of us had sex in various positions, the girl who won at rock-paper-scissors slept with me, while the other two eventually slept in the other double bed. Later, I read a question here from someone like the questioner, worrying about an allowance for a trip, and thought, “Wait—was I actually supposed to pay an allowance back then? Was that the general consensus?” That’s how I realized it. Even after that, there were times when I didn’t decide the amount in advance. The reason was the purpose of the trip. For example, if, as in this question, “she was jealous of the others, so I took her along,” it can feel as though the trip itself is the compensation for the date. So once, on a domestic trip, she asked me on the train from the airport, “Um… what happens with the allowance for this trip?” I panicked and said, “Sorry, my policy is ¥50,000 per night, so it’ll be ¥50,000 for one night,” and quickly handed it over. Recently, I’ve finally learned my lesson and keep reminding myself: no matter the reason, once you have an adult relationship, an allowance is due. Tell her the amount beforehand. The point of this long story is that papas’ understanding can change over time too. You have to figure out where that particular papa currently stands. He may genuinely think, without any ill intent, “An allowance probably isn’t necessary this time.” So what should the questioner do? If you’ve been together for a year and a half and get along well, the best approach is probably to ask beforehand, “What will the allowance be for this trip?” If he gets angry, then he’s clearly a strange person, and you’d probably be better off looking for another papa. Alternatively, you could cautiously ask at the end of the trip, “What will the allowance be for this trip?” That comes across as more reserved. In the end, this kind of thing is like an offering given to a Buddhist monk—it’s a matter of “how you feel.” Even if the amount is small, don’t complain or negotiate. If you don’t like it, just leave. Assume there’s no standard rate for a travel allowance. It can be anywhere from ¥0 to infinity—at which point the trip simply isn’t feasible.