You really can’t know without meeting someone, but if I wanted to gauge from a woman’s profile or the club’s introduction whether she’s open to intimacy, what should I pay attention to?
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I understand that with Relationship Types C and D, things may progress depending on the chemistry. However, in a deeper relationship, I’m looking for something more ongoing and mutually enthusiastic—meeting more than twice, for example—and I haven’t been able to find anyone like that. I’ve seen women write things like “I love sex” in their introductions or questionnaire responses, but when we actually meet, most seem eager to leave after things happen once. Even after meeting several times and building some rapport, I still can’t take things any further.
Or is it wrong to expect repeated intimacy through a dating club? Since clubs aren’t escort services, I sometimes wonder whether I should simply use an escort service when I have those needs. But I’m hoping for a relationship with room to develop, which is why I’m looking for someone through a dating club.
I realize this may be a difficult question to answer, but I’d appreciate any insight or advice you may have.
Aren’t you misunderstanding what an escort club is?
That isn’t a service the club provides.
It’s the man’s job to make the woman want a second time.
Start by learning what you can to make that happen. Once you do, you’ll probably realize, “Oh, that’s not the kind of sex I’m looking for.”
Once you understand that, you’ll likely think, “If it’s through an escort club, once is probably enough.”
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There are all kinds of people, so I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily wrong to ask for it multiple times.
However, if H is your only goal, you may be better off going to a sex-work establishment. A dating club is better understood as a place where people seek an adult relationship (intimate), including H, while also valuing the time they spend together outside of H.
> When we actually meet, they all seem eager to leave after it’s over once, and even after meeting several times and deepening the relationship somewhat, I can’t get things to progress that far.
That is strange. Women are evaluating men too, so when they meet a good man, I think they’ll want to meet his wishes. Even if they initially intend to stop after one round, if they like you, they’ll probably agree to around two rounds.
Once it’s three rounds or more, it likely depends on the woman’s stamina, so I think that part is ultimately up to her.
Another factor may be the allowance.
Why not try offering a more generous (well-paying) allowance than other men?
Some people say the allowance doesn’t matter, but I don’t think it can have no influence at all.
Also, if you’re in the Black Class, you could ask the staff whether they can find someone matching the type of woman you’re looking for. Sometimes they’ll be able to help.
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No one else has mentioned it, so I will: if you’re trying to gauge a woman’s age from her profile or the club’s introduction, age does matter.
If you make an offer to a woman in her late 30s or 40s who says she “likes intimacy,” paradise may be waiting for you. Younger women generally haven’t fully matured hormonally yet, and they’re busy with all kinds of things, so even if they say they like intimacy, they probably won’t have the time or patience to indulge in it that much. If you still prefer younger women, it probably comes down to the allowance.
Adding my own thoughts:
Women who say they “love intimacy” don’t necessarily enjoy making men climax—they enjoy climaxing and feeling good themselves. I also often hear them say, “I prefer older men because younger guys are only interested in ejaculating themselves.” Wanting it twice or three times is no different from those younger men.
If you’re looking for hints in a profile, maybe phrases like “I enjoy making people happy.” There really are young women who feel happier when they see their partner enjoying himself than when they’re simply focused on feeling good themselves.
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I’ve always felt that the number of times doesn’t really matter.
If, for example, one time for you lasts just one minute, then two or three times shouldn’t be a problem either.
Why not try doubling the allowance for now?
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It’s because the questioner’s allowance is too low.
Every one of my monthly partners is incredibly horny. Yesterday, one of them cooked me dinner. I felt so satisfied—like I’d already climaxed three times—that I was about to send her home. But she took me to bed, watched my “white de Bussey” brought out by her technique, and gazed at me with an affectionate, mischievous smile.
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I think those things become possible when you build a relationship where the woman genuinely wants to fulfill the man’s wishes.
You’re unlikely to find that if you go looking for it from the outset.
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I decided to answer for once and happened to come across a particularly entertaining question.
First of all, it’s hilarious that you use the number of rounds as an indicator of how enthusiastic someone is about sex. You mean the number of times you yourself ejaculate, right? That alone shows how self-centered you are.
As it happens, I recently had sex with a woman who had just ended things with a man who kept asking for a second round. She casually remarked, “I realized just how rough my previous papa’s sex was.”
Rather than blaming the other person, I think you should focus on how to make the woman you’re with feel more positive about it. Start by learning how to have sex that makes your partner want another round.
Addendum:
I think women who are enthusiastic about sex often find partners who can satisfy them outside of dating clubs. I hear this kind of thing quite often when talking with my partners.
It must be difficult to pursue your own pleasure during sex performed as part of entertaining someone in exchange for an allowance, so I suppose that makes sense.
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I don’t think the women who write that they like intimacy are necessarily lying. But perhaps what they really like is being intimate with a man they genuinely like and have feelings for.
Since you meet through a dating club, I think the kind of relationship you’re hoping for will be difficult to develop. After all, this isn’t the regular dating market.
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to meet more often, but in that case, you should show your sincerity and make an effort on your end as well. Alternatively, you could meet two women in one day at different times and achieve your goal. Though I’m sure you’ll say, “That’s not the point.”
The only reason it’s so easy to meet young, attractive women is because this is papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
Let’s keep that basic principle in mind and enjoy it for what it is!
Just my two cents.
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It seems this site tends to be a little harsher toward male posters asking questions about other men, haha, so I’ll be careful too. But first of all, I don’t think “being enthusiastic about H” necessarily means always wanting two or more rounds…
Here, “enthusiastic about H” probably gives a more accurate impression if understood as “eager for an adult relationship.”
As for how to find women like that, there are videos about it on YouTube (Mr. Muranishi even posted one recently, haha), but isn’t it difficult to tell from a profile or introduction alone?
Generally, people say things like: she likes alcohol, appetite and sexual desire tend to go hand in hand to some extent, or she wears more revealing clothes. But based on my experience, I’m not sure how reliable those signs really are.
Thinking back on the few things I’ve experienced myself—cases where I was the one thinking, “Wait, are we still going?”—I’d say it may have been because:
- She felt emotionally secure with me and had fairly strong feelings for me
- That was combined with physical circumstances, such as drinking or coincidentally being just before her period
- Our preferred styles and compatibility matched quite well
Something like that, maybe…?
Ultimately, I think opinions from female respondents would be the most helpful.
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Your post comes across as blaming others overall, but might the problem lie with you?
With Fuu’s monthly arrangements, two rounds is generally the norm for everyone, and they can do more if they stay overnight, so it doesn’t seem to be that they can’t because it’s a dating club.
Profiles may include hints like “I enjoy H,” “I like adult relationships,” or “age doesn’t matter,” in which case there’s a good chance they’re open to intimacy. But some women are like that even without writing it in their profiles. You won’t know whether you can find someone who is until you make an offer, meet her, and give it a try—so make lots of offers and keep looking.
These are only possibilities, of course, but reasons a woman may not want to go for a second round could include:
- Poor personal hygiene
- Being bad at sex
- Taking up too much of her time
- A low allowance
If you want to enjoy papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), shouldn’t you carefully observe your partner and work on addressing any issues?
Even with papa-katsu, you can’t rely entirely on the other person. I think you need to take the initiative and make an effort to become someone women want to go for a second round with.
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