Are there wealthy men who spend money on women, and wealthy men who don’t?

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After reading some of the questions here, I was moved by how generously some wealthy women are treated, but at the same time, I felt pretty discouraged by the gap between them and me, so I wanted to ask. I joined UC when I was 18, and it’s been about ten years now. I feel like I’ve met quite a few men who were probably wealthy. I asked a question here before, but although my schedule is basically filled almost every day with monthly arrangements, I’m not a popular woman since I’ve been receiving fewer offers lately. I also spend my hobbies doing things together with men. So, after getting to know a certain number of men, there’s something I’ve been wondering about. Maybe it’s only with me, but the wealthier and higher-earning a man was, the more stingy he tended to be. Of course, they gave me at least the minimum allowance, but not many paid above the going rate. The only way I received more was by increasing the number of days or staying overnight. In those cases, the total monthly amount was higher because they paid an additional amount multiplied by the number of days. Aside from that, whether it was from noon to midnight or several nights, the amount stayed the same. For stays of seven nights or more, the amount per night was actually below the going rate. Maybe I’m more likely to get repeat offers because I don’t complain about the allowance and accommodate what the other person wants. I probably put up with things that other women wouldn’t. At the same time, I feel that the more I put up with, the higher my repeat rate becomes. One of my bad habits is that I’ll even say things like, “You can lower the allowance if you want—I don’t need it.” I often hear women say this as lip service, but nothing is ever more expensive than something free, so it seems like women who say that usually have another motive. This may be true of men in general, but I’ve often heard that what matters most is having a naturally slim waist, being slender, having a good personality, and how willing you are to do what they ask. I feel like I’m probably fairly high on men’s personal preference rankings—without much lip service, I think—but… When I see questions here about women receiving the same allowance even without intimacy, or being paid even when they haven’t met, I’m honestly amazed because that seems completely impossible in my world. I understand that there are wealthier people out there whom I simply haven’t met, but whenever this topic comes up, everyone responds in unison that rich people are stingy. I can understand that, since you probably can’t become wealthy without being careful with money. But wealthy people do spend generously on the things they consider worth it, so maybe I just wasn’t one of those things for them. Sorry for the long post. When I read the questions here, I end up feeling really shocked by how low my own level is… When I once discussed the going rate with a staff member, they told me that I was actually receiving a decent amount. Of course, there will always be women above me, but realistically, for women who receive ¥200,000 per meeting, how much are they getting in total each month? I do believe those stories are true, but I don’t hear only positive stories like that. It makes me feel that, from a papa’s perspective, how cost-effective the relationship is—and from the woman’s perspective, how much she’s willing to put up with—may be what determines whether he likes her. Are there really that many papa-katsu women who have a dream-like papa? 😭

Answer 1

If her schedule is fully booked every day, she’s probably above average. Is she making a living through papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)? If she seems to have a lot of men around, you’ll be treated accordingly. Unless you can make a wealthy papa (a male supporter) genuinely fall for you, you won’t be able to bring in the big money. If her schedule is packed every day, a papa may back off, assuming she has other men. You may need to be selective about which papas you choose.

Answer 2

Dream paps do exist, but they’re extremely rare, and meeting one also comes down to luck. To be chosen, you may need to have some appeal of your own as well. People who succeed in business don’t necessarily seem “stingy with money” so much as focused on “optimizing capital.” They may look stingy despite having plenty of money because they absolutely hate “dead money.” They dislike wasting even 100 yen on unnecessary fees when it comes to consumption, but they’ll immediately invest 10 million yen in something that could potentially generate 100 million yen in the future. For them, money is “ammunition for expanding their influence,” used according to their convictions. That’s why they can be surprisingly strict—stingy, even—when it comes to spending on appearances that create no value or waste they can’t control. Unfortunately, this is just my personal opinion, but perhaps the questioner hasn’t been chosen as an investment because they’re too willing to do whatever they’re told and haven’t competed based on their own appeal. That said, I don’t want you to be pessimistic. There are people whose looks aren’t even at a level where they could do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), so you should know when you have enough. Be grateful that you’ve been able to do papa-katsu and receive an allowance for all these years. If you’d been receiving an allowance and spending time with successful people for ten years, I can’t help wondering whether you had countless chances to save money and start a business. Maybe your lack of foresight in that area—and your lack of business sense—is why you weren’t chosen. Though, of course, it’s too late now…

Answer 3

I also feel that being wealthy doesn’t necessarily mean someone will give you a generous allowance. Rather than how much money or income a person has, it seems to me that the way they spend depends greatly on how important they consider you to be. So even someone with plenty of money may not be willing to give much, while the opposite can also be true. As for continuing a relationship, as Makeo-san said, the fact that it lasts is valuable in itself. Being able to compromise and make adjustments is also a strength. That said, this is also a world where there’s no end to how high you can look. It’s natural to feel discouraged when you see other people’s terms and stories, but if you force yourself to adopt something very different from your own approach, it may ultimately become stressful or prevent the relationship from lasting. The questioner has already established a style that works for them, and the fact that it has led to ongoing relationships and repeat meetings is a significant strength. I think you should first take confidence in that. If you want more than that, adopting a somewhat different approach from what you do now may also place additional strain on you. I feel it’s a matter of balancing what you hope for with what you can comfortably continue. In my case, there have also been long-term relationships where the dynamic changed because of the other person’s circumstances, such as their health or age. In some cases, they have continued to give me the same allowance even when we only meet for tea. I feel that arrangements like this are built over time through an ongoing relationship, rather than being established from the very beginning. Ultimately, continuing in a way that you yourself feel comfortable with may be the most important thing. Please don’t push yourself, and value your own feelings.

Answer 4

You don’t often come across wealthy men who are stingy. Maybe what’s happening is that you assume someone will spend a lot because he’s rich, only to find out that isn’t necessarily the case. As for the allowance, I don’t think it’s really determined by whether a man is wealthy. It mostly comes down to his personal values. For example, if he thinks a pencil is worth around ¥100, then it’s perfectly normal for him to pay only ¥100 for something that other people also buy for ¥100. If a wealthy person were to pay ¥100,000 for that same pencil, it would probably mean he has a personal attachment to the store itself and wants to spend money on the store—not that he thinks the pencil is worth that much. That would simply reflect a different set of values. In other words, a man who gives an allowance of ¥30,000 probably feels that the woman is worth ¥30,000 to him, while a man who gives ¥200,000 feels that she is worth ¥200,000. Whether someone is stingy, though, is a separate issue from their values. A wealthy person may pay ¥1 million or even ¥10 million if he feels something is worth that much, but he won’t pay if he doesn’t see the value. Someone who isn’t wealthy may feel that something is valuable, but he can’t spend money he doesn’t have. So, since people’s values aren’t easy to change, it ultimately comes down to whether you can meet someone who places a high value on women—and whether you can become someone he likes. >Are there really that many dream papas for UC women? 😭 There are men at UC who give ¥200,000, for example, but they don’t offer that amount across the board. They only do so when they feel that a particular woman is worth it. It’s normal for the allowance to vary depending on the value they place on the person they’re seeing. So there may be a fair number of papas at Universe who give ¥200,000, but I feel that only a small portion of women actually receive that amount. That said, there are quite a few men who give over ¥100,000.

Answer 5

Even if you find a papa who seems like a dream, maintaining the relationship is difficult. I’ve had 200 first meetings through Universe Club alone, but only two actually progressed to an adult relationship (intimate). That’s a one-in-100 chance. The harsh reality of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is that, for you to meet a good papa, you may have to bite the bullet and sleep with around 100 people.

Answer 6

The idea that the wealthier someone is, the stingier they are is partly an urban legend. It’s probably true that they dislike wasting money. Wealthy people can be very different depending on their background. Someone who comes from a wealthy family, such as one raised in a family that has owned large tracts of land near Tokyo for generations, will likely have a very different attitude toward money from someone who built a fortune by starting their own business or worked hard to establish their current position after obtaining a professional qualification. In any case, it’s genuinely rare to come across someone who consistently spends the equivalent of ¥100,000 or more per pay-per-meeting arrangement. In the past, there were about three women I became truly deeply involved with, and around ten with whom things continued for a while at that level. It really is a one-in-a-hundred kind of thing. What makes it turn out that way is honestly a mystery. They’ve all had different types and backgrounds. But what they had in common was substance and warmth, along with good chemistry in bed, of course. We also had a similar sense of humor and shared interests, and simply enjoyed being together. In any case, even if you’re receiving a standard allowance on a pay-per-meeting basis, if you have enough appeal to keep your schedule full, then as long as you don’t become jaded, maintain confidence and pride in yourself, and treat the men you meet with gratitude and respect, I believe you’ll eventually meet a man who makes you someone special to him.

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