I signed up for a papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) site, but the environment is way too rough.
I’ve had first meetings with seven men, and this is what I’ve experienced:
- Unless I specifically state it in my messages beforehand, there’s no allowance for the first meeting—or just enough for transportation (0.1–0.2).
(And yet they still talk for over an hour.)
- For an adult relationship (intimate), they offer 1.5–3 at most.
(The person offering 3 was in his 60s.)
I’m guessing that includes the time spent eating afterward, too.
- Almost all of them try to pressure me into an adult relationship starting from the second meeting.
- Even the dinner-only (no intimacy) papas offer just 1 for an entire day’s date.
- A lot of them don’t make any effort with their appearance.
That’s basically what it’s been like. Honestly, there’s no point in doing papa-katsu under these conditions.
I’ve used apps before, and even they weren’t this bad. There’s nothing particularly wrong with my looks, and I’m confident in my personality and charm, so I don’t think the problem is on my end. I think the issue is probably that the site attracts men with only a little financial leeway, and apparently many of the girls are willing to accept those terms.
To put it bluntly, I find it infuriating.
Why is this happening? And why do the girls agree to do papa-katsu for conditions that are no better—or even worse value—than working at some random girls’ bar?
P.S. I’m genuinely struggling financially, so I’m thinking about signing up with Universe, but I’m hesitant because I’ve heard it’s full of model-level women. Is it possible to get offers even with an average appearance? (I’m 155 cm and 40 kg, so I’m not badly proportioned.)
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> Unless you state it upfront in your messages, there’s no allowance for the first meeting—or at most, just enough to cover transportation (0.1–0.2).
I don’t know which site you’re referring to, but isn’t it basically a compensated-dating site where men want to go straight to a hotel?
Because of that, I think many men won’t pay anything unless it’s an adult relationship (intimate).
To begin with, I think “first meetings” originally started because men wanted to meet in person and make sure the woman looked like her photos. So perhaps the idea was that, if they were satisfied even if she looked different from her pictures, they would proceed directly to an adult relationship (intimate).
Separately, there used to be arrangements like “this much for a meal” or “this much for coffee,” but at some point it seems to have shifted into “please pay me even for the first meeting.”
However, I don’t think the men have adapted to that change. On those sites, there are probably many men who believe that no money is paid for a first meeting, while payment applies to a coffee date or dinner date—but they won’t meet unless it’s for an adult relationship (intimate).
So unless you state it in your messages beforehand, I think what happened to you—that there would be no allowance for the first meeting—is pretty much how it works.
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“Normal” means different things to different people, so I think you should start by going to an interview at the club.
There are women who look like models, but there are also students and ordinary working women.
If you were roughly among the top five best-looking girls in your class back in school, that should be enough to receive offers through the club.
And even women who aren’t conventionally attractive can have just the right charm to appeal to men and make them feel comfortable. Either way, I think you should attend the club interview, see if you’re accepted, and wait to see whether any offers come in. Registration is free, after all.
papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) will probably continue becoming more low-cost.
Japan’s economy isn’t doing well, so there are fewer wealthy men. Women who are struggling are turning to street solicitation, dating sites, and social media, while several papa-katsu apps have appeared too, creating more competition.
Back during the bubble era, compensated dating usually involved “1.5” (the slang term “hotel fee separate, 15,000 yen”), with the man paying separately for the hotel.
This club is long-established and has a solid history, so it feels trustworthy. I think the going rates are still fairly stable—for now, anyway.
If you’re going to do papa-katsu, this is the first place I’d try. If there’s no demand for you here, you may have to look elsewhere, but there might be demand, so I hope you’ll give the interview a try.
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I’ve never used any apps other than sites and Patro, so I can’t say for sure, but that does seem pretty awful.
Even for me—the respondent with the lowest allowance—it sounds way too low. At Universe Club, the allowance for a first meeting is set at ¥10,000 for transportation, so I think that’s one difference.
I’m not sure what you mean by “average-looking,” but I’d definitely recommend going to an interview at Universe Club and giving it a try. Since you seem to have a good figure, I think you have a real chance.
That said, since you have to wait for offers from men, there are of course cases where you may not receive any at all. I hope you understand that.
Eventually, I hope you’ll join us as a respondent, gain lots of knowledge, and share your experiences with everyone.
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