I’d like some advice on the price range for restaurants when going out to eat.

Wow, what a high-maintenance papa. He makes the woman choose? Fuu asks what she likes, but I’ve never actually had a woman choose the place for me. I’ve booked restaurants that women said they wanted to go to, though… Maybe you could say, “I’m not very familiar with the area, so could you choose and make the decision for us?” No matter what she chooses, only the papa knows which option offers the best value, and it feels unpleasant—like you’re constantly being tested. As for Fuu, the price range varies too much depending on the time and situation, so I discuss it with my monthly partners and decide together. Some women in their twenties say they’d rather go straight to a room—honestly, probably to save time lol—and I suspect what they really mean is, “Then please increase my allowance instead of paying for dinner” lol. That said, things get monotonous if we don’t have a meal together once in a while, so I sometimes suggest members-only yakiniku restaurants or Michelin-starred sushi places. When they’re in the mood for something upscale, their eyes light up and they’re happy to go along. I occasionally create a special atmosphere by taking them somewhere at a level they normally wouldn’t visit. The married women in their late thirties also look forward to lunch, so I take them to restaurants on the top floor of hotels or afternoon tea. Recently, I met a woman through Patro who lives nearby, so we’ve been driving around to different love hotels near her home. Love hotels these days can have open-air baths, hot springs, saunas, and all sorts of interesting features. We’re currently checking out which hotels have the best VIP rooms. The food and drinks are pretty good too. Some hotels are fully booked on weekends unless you reserve in advance. (Everyone’s really doing this, huh?) I even join the phone reservation battle for VIP rooms a month ahead of time. I’ll ask what she likes, but it seems like things would be a hassle unless the papa takes the lead. Lately, my hobby has been searching for tasty, slightly stylish independent restaurants and becoming friends with the owners and managers. Sometimes they even invite me to their events. While they’re laughing and saying, “Wait, aren’t these women different from the ones Fuu brings every time?”

I’m the respondent who gives the highest allowances to women—probably by far. And yet, I usually live very simply, often making do with ready-made meals or cup noodles. I never go to expensive restaurants. Zero. So I almost never take my PJ partners to pricey places. I simply don’t like them, and I don’t know any good ones. *That said, for anniversaries, I use every source of information available to find somewhere upscale and take them there.* Anyone experienced with women will probably nod in agreement, but creating a sense of contrast is extremely important when you want a woman to feel satisfied. You could also call it a surprise. At the first meeting, I might take her to Saizeriya and then say something like, “Would an allowance of ¥〇〇〇,〇〇〇 be okay?” I take her somewhere that completely kills her motivation, then suddenly put down a substantial amount. For ordinary dinner dates, I only take them to inexpensive places, but for birthday gifts, I hand over a large amount of cash. I deliberately create that contrast. There’s a private group for respondents, and one topic that comes up is, “Where should a woman sit when you drive her home?” For me, it’s always the back seat—left side. Part of that is consideration for her privacy, so third parties won’t realize she’s involved in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). But creating contrast is also a major reason. If you have her sit in the passenger seat, the physical distance between you becomes closer. Isn’t that what the hotel is for? At the hotel, you’ll be physically close anyway. Even after entering the hotel, I deliberately sit a little farther away and talk for a while. I don’t move in too easily. Then I gradually close the distance—or suddenly eliminate it altogether—to make her emotions swing in every direction. Once things start, men who aren’t used to handling women will immediately go for a Koiking kiss, suck on her nipples, and lick her clitoris as soon as they’ve taken off her panties. And they’ll do it roughly, too. I never do that. I slowly and gently touch her waist, legs, and hands, and, if she allows it, her hair as well. I leave her nipples and clitoris until as late as possible. Even after penetration, I don’t start moving intensely for the first few minutes. I wait quietly. The contrast is important. Getting back to meals, I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with always dining at places that cost over ¥10,000 per person. But I do wonder where you’re supposed to create that contrast. More importantly, men have a set total budget for dates. Are you really okay with asking for expensive restaurants if that means accepting a lower allowance? Are you okay with your chances of continuing the arrangement dropping? If a man is bravely signaling that he wants to go somewhere inexpensive, I recommend picking up on that signal and reworking your strategy with the continuation rate in mind.

At this point, it really depends on the papa (male supporter)—you just have to see what kind of person he is and respond accordingly. For reference, I’m not a fan of: - Upscale restaurants or restaurants in luxury hotels → I feel too tense - Famous restaurants → I don’t like waiting in line or places with lots of people watching - Casual restaurants → On top of the above, I don’t like noisy places either So it’s extremely difficult. Basically, I don’t really want to go out to eat with women in the first place, lol. I’ll try to feel things out by asking, “What do you like? Where do you usually go, or where have you been wanting to try?” and then decide from there. Most of the time, though, it ends up being just coffee or eating something we bought at a hotel. Probably not very helpful—sorry...

“Could I ask what price range of restaurants everyone involved in these arrangements usually goes to?” Is that really what you want to know—how everyone else is doing? Shouldn’t the question be what you should do? Other people may be going to more expensive places, or they may not. Everyone is different, and you should do what works for you. In this case, if you had been going to restaurants costing at least ¥10,000 per person, but the man said he wanted somewhere with better value for money, then I think you should try choosing a place costing about half as much. If he then says you didn’t need to go somewhere quite that cheap, you’ll know he was hoping for somewhere around ¥7,500. If he doesn’t say anything about the value, then he probably preferred somewhere around ¥5,000. If he still says he wants somewhere more affordable after that, then he’s probably someone who leaves you with no choice but to pick a family restaurant. And if you don’t want to go to a family restaurant, then you can simply end things with him.

If I’m going to spend money on a meal, I’d rather use it to buy the woman a gift, so I’ve only ever gone to places where dinner for two costs 10,000 yen or less.

In that case, I think it’s a good idea to include one or two options such as ramen or soba, Chinese food, curry, or a family restaurant, along with izakayas and Italian-style restaurants. You could also let her know in advance that convenience stores and family restaurants are fine too. It’s best to choose the restaurant’s price range based on your own interest in food. If that doesn’t work for her, I think it’s perfectly fine to part ways. In my case, it varies a lot depending on the girl. Maybe that’s because, when I’m alone, even Yoshinoya feels like a wonderful treat to me. It also depends quite a bit on the kind of places she normally goes to eat. If the price range of the restaurants she usually goes to is: ¥2,000–¥23,000 → choose somewhere around ¥23,000–¥45,000 ¥1,200–¥5,600 → choose somewhere around ¥5,000–¥12,000 Up to ¥3,400 → choose somewhere around ¥5,000–¥10,000 There won’t be much shared enjoyment if you go somewhere far beyond what she normally visits, so I think a place that’s just a little bit of a splurge is more than enough. Everyone loves convenience-store food. It saves time, and you can choose exactly what you like… P.S. Wait, do most papas usually choose and make the reservations? Come to think of it, in most cases the girl chooses the restaurant, goes there first, or makes the reservation… Choosing a restaurant can be fun. If you’re interested in food, you want to go somewhere you actually want to try, and eating is one of the three basic human needs. If you can enjoy whatever you feel like eating without worrying about the budget, then… Maybe it’s different when you’re trying to be considerate of the other person—or if you find it too much of a hassle, or simply aren’t very interested in food… Either way, it’s not good to make her choose the restaurant and then question her about the budget afterward… Also, if you’ve been choosing places costing over ¥10,000 every time, you’ve honestly been pretty clueless, especially since the amounts suggested by the other respondents vary so much. You need to include places costing around ¥2,000–¥3,000 per person sometimes too, whether that’s soba, udon, an izakaya, or an Italian restaurant… In short, there may also be some truth to the idea that you should put a little more effort into choosing decent, tasty restaurants.

If the food is good, why not suggest anything from ¥3,000 per person per meal to even ¥100,000? I go wherever the woman wants to go, and sometimes the two of us finish three bottles of wine. I also enjoy being introduced to restaurants I wouldn’t normally visit myself.

Since you’re asking about the typical price range: It wasn’t our first meeting, but we’ve gone to places like Ichiran and Torikizoku, and it’s also perfectly normal for the bill at a sushi restaurant to exceed ¥10,000 per person. On average, it’s usually somewhere between ¥5,000 and just under ¥10,000 per person, since I drink alcohol. Hope that helps.