Tips Apr 11, 2026 00:03

I’m the person who asked about the fake item last time.

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Your incredibly kind answer really put my mind at ease. Thank you so much. I’m sorry this is getting long, so I’ll start by grouping my two questions together. ① In papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), there are people with somewhat difficult personalities, regardless of gender, right? I feel that a certain amount of patience is necessary in those situations, but what do you all think? ② I understand that everyone has different arrangements, but if the allowance is 70,000 yen for one overnight stay, would it normally be 420,000 yen for six nights over the course of a week? Looking at it by the month, I had already received quite a lot, so I couldn’t bring it up myself and simply accepted whatever the other person gave me. I received 200,000 yen for two nights and 200,000 yen for three nights. Of course, this person is a good one, and I’ve also had people who paid the same allowance whether it was one, two, or three nights. I’ve been doing this for quite a while now, so I feel I’ve gained a certain amount of experience. In other words, I think a relationship can continue as long as you can tolerate the other person to some extent. This applies regardless of gender, of course, but at least with men who have particularly strong quirks, the longer you put up with them, the longer the relationship tends to last—because other women give up. Men with fewer quirks tend to be popular with many women, so my impression is that there’s more competition. Ideally, I’d like to have one-on-one access to a man who has a lot of competition, of course. Since women are the ones receiving the allowance, men generally aren’t going to pay an allowance and deliberately endure being with a particularly difficult woman. So, in these situations, I assume that women are usually the ones expected to be patient. As for why I was deceived in the previous case involving the fake item, it was because the other person was fairly well-known as a business owner. Since he was undergoing the process for a potential stock listing, I thought he couldn’t do anything suspicious. I also felt as though I was being tested to see whether I was too focused on money, so I couldn’t cut things off right away. I even overanalyzed the situation, wondering whether he actually had money but was trying to weed out women who were too money-minded. Since the information was officially available, it didn’t seem to be a lie. Of course, I was completely put off when I received the fake item, but it’s true that I also had ulterior motives. There were many times when I felt he was probably lying, but I assumed that the period during which he was undergoing the stock-listing review was one when he couldn’t do anything strange, so I couldn’t fully bring myself to distrust him. Looking at the relationship overall, if I average things out based on how many times we met and how much time we spent together, I feel that I was still within a range I can forgive in terms of being exploited. So I’ve more or less given up on trying to recover the allowance I didn’t receive, especially since there were also times when we met for only a very short period. Sorry for the long post.
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フラグメーカー
フラグメーカー Male Column Send a reverse offer to this responder
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
I kind of wish papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) were more fantastical, ambiguous, and dreamlike. Something like: “You know, you’re kind of a great match for me! Let’s just become friends like normal, okay? Take me to nice places and show me good food! You’re special to me, Uncle♡” And the man would naturally pay an allowance that’s at least above average, too. Both sides benefit. Everyone gets what they deserve. For the final goodbye, something like, “I’m sorry… I’m disappearing from this world tomorrow…” would be fine. I wish there were a place where you could do papa-katsu like a Disney movie.
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前澤(スタッフ)
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🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Questions like “What is everyone else doing?” feel more like market research than actual questions to me. I considered hiding this post, but decided to leave it visible so people understand that this kind of post isn’t really a question. I’m happy to give thoughtful answers to people who are genuinely struggling, but I’d appreciate it if you could refrain from posting questions that aren’t.
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負け男
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
① If you can keep enduring and are eventually rewarded for it, you can build a long-term relationship with someone above your level. In my case, my “ace” and “queen” among my monthly arrangements fall into this category. I didn’t see them for seven months, but continued giving them their monthly allowance during that time. Now, I receive an enormous amount of love from both of them. When it comes to someone above your level, I don’t think there’s any option other than being patient and waiting for the cherry blossoms to bloom. ② The moment you start calculating, you’ve already lost—if they’re above your level. If they’re below your level, you can calculate things and make your demands. The men who pay 420,000 yen are lower-level men. If it’s a higher-level man who might turn out to be extremely generous, I think all you can do is leave it up to him and be patient. Just make sure you keep the courage to walk away hidden away for when you reach your limit.
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マルケス
クラブ活動歴だけは30年以上と長いです。交際クラブの世界観は結構好きで楽しんでいます。60代後半になって大分以前とは活動内容が変わって来ていますが、まあ、楽しめる間は楽しもうと思っています。
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
I’ve almost never continued seeing someone while forcing myself to put up with things. Of course, I understand that there are naturally differences between the male and female perspectives. So even with women I’ve continued seeing for a long time, I’m sure there were things they put up with on their end. I don’t think I’m particularly difficult or have many strong quirks, and I don’t seem to be especially drawn to women who do. Honestly, I feel there’s no point in forcing yourself to endure things just to keep seeing someone. If two people genuinely like each other and have been seeing one another for a long time, then there may be times when one person has to wait because work makes it impossible to meet. But that’s just a normal part of building any relationship, so I wouldn’t really call it forcing yourself to put up with something. As for the allowance for traveling together, it really depends on the person. I suppose you discuss it beforehand and decide whether you’re willing to go under those terms. Personally, I’ve never taken a trip lasting more than one night because I find it mentally taxing. But based on what I’ve heard from women, for longer trips—around a week, for example—many receive an amount roughly equal to the pay-per-meeting allowance multiplied by the number of days, minus the expenses incurred from the trip, mainly airfare. In other words, they would go if the man offered those terms.
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紙ひこうき
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
If it were me, I’d be open to dating a woman with a strong personality, even if it meant going through some tough times!! In Makeo-san’s terms, would that make her “higher ranked”?? Someone who shows her true self is much more appealing than someone who’s perfect at papa-katsu!! She’s a wonderful person who can still express her full range of emotions, no matter how old she gets.... It’d be boring if she were just trying to keep me happy....
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マックさん
🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m not really sure what the person asking the question is getting at. They don’t seem like a beginner, so if they’re just looking to kill time and chat, they might have more fun answering questions instead. Recently, the site admin, Maezawa, created a closed, forum-like space called the “Answerers’ Community,” where we have more in-depth discussions. Feel free to join us. As for the fake item, maybe that papa (male supporter) had simply been sold a counterfeit himself. I can’t imagine him doing something that cheap. Besides, why didn’t you just go shopping for it together?
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Fuu
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
You seem to want to fit people into certain patterns, but it doesn’t look like they can be categorized that easily. The misconception that everyone in management at a listed company is nice, honest, and generous with money—why is that, lol? Some people can lie shamelessly and still get ahead. Even terrible people can be capable of making money. On the other hand, some people who don’t earn that much may still be generous when it comes to this kind of thing. Do your best to figure them out. I’m not going to deny that you think that way. I think it’s fine to use those categories as a way of thinking about people. That said, if you want a lot of money, you may have to put up with a papa (a male supporter) who gives a large allowance but has some quirks. Of course, there are probably also papas who are generous without being particularly difficult. There are also papas like Fuu’s—perhaps not as generous with the allowance, but less demanding, lol. Having a second round be mandatory might be a bit demanding, lol. Whether that counts as being particularly difficult or not probably depends on the person.
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