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Mar 14, 2026 13:36
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The problem is what happens afterward: about two-thirds of the women either leave my reply unread or read it and never respond. In the end, the woman gets no benefit at all, while only the man has to pay money—even if it’s less than the standard offer fee, it still isn’t free—and the site is the only one profiting.
Would it be difficult to create a system where, if a message is left unread or unanswered, the man could also submit a screenshot to the site and, depending on the circumstances, receive a refund or have the woman penalized? It always leaves me feeling unsettled.
I’d appreciate your opinions, assuming this is not an official direct offer.
8 answers
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
> About two-thirds of the women either leave my messages unread or read them without replying.
You may be taking this seriously, but I think there’s a problem with the messages you’re sending.
You may think I’m exaggerating, but the messages sent by men who complain about not getting replies on PATOLO are awful. They contain things that make you wonder how anyone could actually send a message like that.
“Please list every day you’re available.” (← This is a scheduling approach women dislike.)
“Would you meet me NN for an allowance of ¥30,000?” (← What are you thinking, saying that out of nowhere to someone you’ve never even met? The allowance is far too low to begin with.)
“I’m looking for this kind of woman because of this and that, but I can’t seem to meet anyone... blah blah blah.” (← Women don’t want to hear you talk about your search for women.)
Since this isn’t based on an actual conversation, you might say, “No one would really talk like that.” But this is the impression I got when I previously received complaints from men and wondered whether the women were really at fault.
Do they not see the other person as an ordinary woman?
Have they forgotten how to communicate with women?
Do they think it’s okay because they’re paying? (The women haven’t received a single yen.)
I’m not really sure, but if you rarely get replies, take another look at the messages you’re sending.
If your message is written in a way that makes a woman want to reply, you’ll get a response almost 100% of the time.
If you’re not getting replies, assume that the problem lies with you.
And it’s also puzzling that someone who can only send such rude messages would say:
“Please share your opinions on the assumption that there will be no formal direct offer.”
If you already know how to solve the problem, why ask this?
If this is training to improve your writing skills, then I think you should simply keep practicing instead of complaining.
> Would it be difficult to create a system that penalizes women?
I think the problem lies with the questioner, not the women, so it seems like the opposite would be more appropriate.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Letter Date is now a perk available only to Black-level male members, but when I used it in the past, I was able to meet the women without any problems.
If you can’t meet any women, the only conclusion I can draw is that there’s something wrong with how you handle things after the Letter Date.
And to be blunt, blaming the women for not meeting you and demanding that they be penalized doesn’t strike me as very gentlemanly.
You come across as the kind of person who would complain when a woman doesn’t agree to a second meeting after a setting date.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I mainly do letter dates. There are three reasons:
1. I can explain my approach to dating in advance, which reduces the chances of a mismatch.
2. The setting fee is cut in half, so I can give the girl the difference when we meet, saying, “Since I saved half the fee.” The women appreciate that.
3. I really enjoy getting the first messages and notifications through email or LINE during the letter date.
For me, number 3 is the most important. It’s practically a fetish of mine.
When there was talk of discontinuing letter dates, I liked them so much that I told my coordinator, “I’ll probably quit.”
Anyway, putting aside the fact that none of this really answers the question, I only fail to meet someone about 10% of the time.
※I should also add that my N-value is among the highest at Universe Club.
I’ve never really worried about not being able to meet someone. If we don’t meet, I don’t have to pay an allowance, after all. The only time I’m really disappointed is when I can’t meet a woman who’s exactly my type.
A letter date is literally a “date,” so it’s only natural that you won’t get to meet her unless you treat her well. The main thing I’m curious about is: Are you treating her well during the letter date? Are you escorting her properly?
You may not go so far as to think, “I can do anything as long as I pay,” but we papas aren’t customers, you know. We have a responsibility to entertain and escort the women. If anything, the women are the customers.
Since guys as unattractive and middle-aged as us are being given the time of day by young, cute women, it’s only natural that we put our all into being gracious and skillful escorts from the very first message of the letter date.
You don’t have to agree with my opinion, and feel free to disagree. But the more ungentlemanly papas there are, the better business is for me.
I approach letter dates with enough enthusiasm to escort a woman so well that she comes to the first meeting already extremely aroused. That’s how I do it.
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Not that there are no regular offers, lol.
It’s pretty obvious if you think about it.
That’s just how papa-katsu with women in their 20s is.
If over 60% of them leave you on read,
→ though I don’t think the rate of being ignored is quite that high.
I’d suggest making a regular offer through the club.
That risk is why the offer fee is relatively low, after all.
Or maybe you should try Patro?
If the offer doesn’t go through or she flakes on the day, you can get your points refunded.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Women have the advantage of being able to get at least a general sense of the other person’s character before meeting and decide accordingly.
I’ve also had experiences where things didn’t work out with someone I met after making an offer, but I never even considered asking for a refund of the setting fee or having the woman penalized for it. Reading the questioner’s argument, my impression was that it seemed rather petty.
I often use Letter Date as well, but I’ve never had anyone leave my messages unread or read them without replying. If a woman who registered with the club hoping to receive offers doesn’t respond, I think there’s a possibility that you may have done something that made her want to avoid you.
Before looking to other people or the system for the cause and a solution, I recommend reflecting on that possibility yourself.
Adding this after reading Mac’s answer:
> It might be better to think of it as saving yourself the trouble, rather than meeting in person, not hitting it off, and having it end after just one meeting.
Exactly. Being able to quickly determine whether you’re a good match is probably a positive thing for both parties.
🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
Most of the female members from Universe are registered on Patro, so you can message them there for free.
Women on the Black or Platinum plans who aren’t registered on Patro probably shouldn’t be using Letter Date in the first place. Personally, I think Letter Date should be offered as a free service for Black members rather than as a paid feature.
Questions like this reflect the real-world perspective of paying male members, so they should be the most valuable kind of feedback. But even if the staff on the ground think, “That’s a fair point,” they don’t have the authority to do anything—and they’re just salaried employees who are happy as long as they get paid. Meanwhile, President Kida has probably retreated into the kind of mindset common among CEOs of companies in their stable phase: “We’re turning a profit for now, so thinking too hard about the details is a hassle. As long as the system keeps running, it’s fine.”
Ideally, there would be a system where genuinely useful questions like these could be forwarded to President Kida at Maezawa-san’s discretion. But I wonder if that’s difficult given Maezawa-san’s position. It would be frustrating if the question box were nothing more than a way to let people blow off steam instead of actual feedback.
Kazu-san,
> I often use Letter Date too, but I’ve never been left unread or had someone read my message and ignore it.
Really? I haven’t used Letter Date in a long time, so I wouldn’t know. That said, if a woman has contacted you at least once, and then leaves your reply unread or reads it without responding, I suppose that also means there was an issue on the man’s side—or simply that the match didn’t work out. Maybe it’s better to think of it as saving yourself the trouble, rather than meeting in person only to find out it wasn’t going to work and ending things after one meeting.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’d really like you to answer the follow-up question and tell us what you wrote that got left on read.
Did you happen to do Letter Dates only with women who were extremely popular and seemed really busy?
I feel the same—I’m incredibly curious. Why?
And if a woman is in high demand, it may be difficult to arrange an in-person meeting anytime soon. But with a Letter Date, you can meet much sooner by fitting it into a spare moment—tomorrow, today, even for just a little while, late at night, early in the morning, or while traveling.
You can even meet other offers one after another before seeing her in person, so Letter Dates are amazing for both sides!!
While you’re waiting to finalize the details, the relationship can even progress, with messages from the woman saying things like, “It’s fate!” “It’s a miracle!” or “I’ve never experienced anything like this before!”
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Back when Gold members could send letters, I sent around ten over the course of several years. I never had a single woman I couldn’t meet.
I’d really like you to tell me in a follow-up question what you wrote that got you left on read. Were you only sending letters to women who were extremely popular and seemed very busy?
Did you avoid writing long messages, immediately state the amount, and move straight on to arranging a meeting?