How much allowance do you typically receive for tea, dinner, an adult relationship (intimate), or a monthly arrangement?

It’s probably not a good idea to negotiate too aggressively. Some people, like me, will cut things off immediately. I once asked a college student who was always seeing more than ten people at once, and they said: “With people I wouldn’t mind losing, I state my terms firmly right from the start. With people I want to keep seeing, I ask what they’re looking for and say I’m willing to accommodate them.” Hope that helps.

Dinner only (no intimacy): 20,000–80,000 yen Adult relationship (intimate), pay-per-meeting: around 100,000 yen Monthly arrangement: 500,000–1,000,000 yen The allowance varies depending on how close we are and her looks. Some women receive over 200,000 yen per meeting, while others receive less than 100,000 yen. A woman can’t become one of my regulars unless she files a tax return. Even the allowance for my top-tier regulars may go down during the relationship. It goes up when business is doing well and down when things aren’t going well. The important thing is whether we’ve reached the kind of relationship where I can tell her about a decrease without hesitation. I hesitate to pay over 2 million yen a month because I feel it could ruin a woman’s life. Unless something beyond miraculous happens, she’ll never meet a spouse her own age who marries her and gives her 2 million yen a month in spending money. So I’d only pay over 2 million yen a month when taking her off the market. Also, trying to negotiate the price with a papa (a male supporter) you’ve just met will probably get you nowhere, so it’s best to just decline. And although it may look like I spend money extravagantly, I’ve made over 200 offers through Universe Club. In other words, I’ve ended things after just one meeting with most of the women. That means I’m actually a pretty toxic papa. A while ago, a male respondent here called me out by name and said, “If you’re not going to continue seeing them, you’re only ruining these women’s lives.” I thought he was absolutely right. Maybe a better papa is someone who sticks to paying 50,000 yen per meeting, regardless of a woman’s age or looks.

It depends on the man’s appearance and build, how clean and comfortable he makes you feel, your physical compatibility, and whether he’s offering the kind of relationship you want. To know that, I think you need to meet a few times and see whether you’re compatible in an adult relationship. After that, you can make a proper judgment about a satisfactory allowance, and the relationship can continue without contradictions. That said, in reality, it seems that the allowance is often decided at the beginning, or before becoming intimate. As someone who believes intimacy should be for the woman’s sake, I feel that women shouldn’t—at least ideally—decide on an allowance without even trying an adult relationship first. But from the club’s perspective, there are practical considerations. Above all, if you don’t know yet whether the relationship will continue, it’s probably impossible to keep meeting without first deciding on an allowance. If both people genuinely want to meet a few times, naturally become intimate, and have good physical compatibility, then even in a club-arranged relationship, there’s no need to decide on the allowance in advance. The chances of such a meeting are certainly not high—it’s quite rare—but perhaps it’s worth seeking a relationship that develops that way. I also hope there will be many more relationships like that, as I believe it would help build and improve the club’s reputation. As for how to negotiate, which was the question: Whether it’s the allowance or your compatibility, if you’re not satisfied, then the relationship isn’t really working, so it may be better to part ways. If you’re viewing it as a way to earn money, you could tell him how you feel while being prepared for the relationship to end—or choose to put up with it. When it comes to women registered with clubs, I think you should assume that almost none of them negotiate.

It’s best to simply tell him the allowance you’re hoping for. If you both continue feeling uneasy about it, the arrangement probably won’t last long. That said, if you name a high amount and your papa (a male supporter) turns it down, you could end up with nothing, so perhaps put up with it at first and say, “From next time onward, I’d like to receive around ___,” instead.

The allowance will vary depending on how attractive you are, your body type (slimmer women tend to be more popular), and your background, such as attending a prestigious university or having a sought-after job. > If the allowance is lower than what I was hoping for, how should I negotiate? If it’s lower than you hoped, you should simply say, “I was thinking of around ¥〇〇, so I’m sorry,” and politely decline. Even if you negotiate with a man who has more than twice your life experience, you’ll almost always lose. It’s best not to negotiate at all and just turn him down. Since you’ve already told him what you were hoping for, if he’s willing to pay that amount, he may say, “That allowance is fine.” (Though I think the chances are less than 10%.) At first, you also won’t know what allowance men would be willing to offer you, so one option is to say, “I’ll leave it up to you. Please decide the amount.” You may come across men who offer an extremely low amount, but there’s nothing you can do about that. Just accept it and don’t meet them again. After meeting a few people, you’ll start to get a sense of the going rate and what kind of allowance is realistic for you. From then on, you can ask: “How much allowance were you thinking of?” If the amount is the same as or higher than what you wanted, accept it as is. If it’s lower, simply say, “I was thinking of ¥〇〇, so I’m sorry,” and decline. What you should never do is set separate prices for options, such as “How much for a kiss?” or “How much for oral?” Men who came from dating apps might accept that, but most men dislike that kind of arrangement. It’s better to set the allowance from the beginning with everything included. Also, since you don’t know what the other person is like at the first meeting, I recommend agreeing only to protected adult relationships (and it’s not a good idea to offer unprotected intimacy for an additional amount, either). From the next meeting onward, if you feel you can trust him, you can decide whether to accommodate his preferences.

Papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) can feel slightly different depending on whether it’s: - A one-on-one arrangement through X or dating/matching apps - A papa-katsu app - A dating club, such as Universe - Papa-katsu as a mistress arrangement through an upscale club in Ginza or elsewhere You might get a better idea of the going rates by asking Google or Gemini. As for the allowance, it’s probably best to set your own minimum and either refuse anything below it or, if the amount falls below your minimum, ask to shorten the meeting (though I don’t really recommend that). I don’t get the impression that negotiations work very well, since one side will end up having to compromise. I think a good, sustainable arrangement is one where the amount the woman wants and the amount the man is willing to pay happen to match.

If the allowance isn’t what you’re looking for, I think it’s best to simply decline without negotiating. At least from the man’s perspective, I assume the amount is offered with future meetings in mind. If he’s worked up or caught up in the moment, he may agree to a higher amount for the first meeting. But once he comes back to his senses, his motivation for seeing you again tends to drop. For some reason, the people who try to negotiate are often the most passive. And that’s my introduction, haha.