I’m a complete beginner—I only registered recently!

Since this is a question that the other respondents aren’t very good at answering, I’ll let the person who knows it best—me—respond. The allowance depends on the woman’s appearance. Using Universe Club’s class system as an example, there are four levels, from Standard to Black: Standard: 30,000 yen Gold: 50,000 yen Platinum: 70,000 yen Black: 100,000 yen There may be some disagreement, but I think these figures are generally accurate. If you’re B2, you would probably receive only 10,000 yen for transportation at the first meeting, spend one or two hours getting to know each other, and then go to a hotel on the second date. At that point, the total amount you receive, including transportation, would be based on the figures above. If the questioner is Gold class, that would be 50,000 yen including transportation. That said, Universe Club’s classifications are based on “Universe Club standards,” not “papa standards.” The women I’ve given the most money to weren’t Black at Universe Club—they were Platinum. From my perspective, they deserved the premium Black rate from every angle, yet for some reason they were registered as Platinum. I suppose it really comes down to personal preference. For an adult relationship (intimate) involving two rounds, I pay extra. If one round is 100,000 yen, I’d pay around 150,000 yen for two rounds. If one round means spending two hours at the hotel, two rounds would probably be a little over three hours. However, this also depends on the person. I think most papas don’t pay extra for a second round, so if you end up with a papa like that, your choices are either to put up with it or end the arrangement. One last important point: I’m not saying it’s wrong to measure cost-effectiveness by the allowance for a single adult relationship, but what matters more is how much you can receive from that papa over the course of a year. Even if a papa pays 50,000 yen per meeting, expects two rounds, and sees you every week, that comes to 200,000 yen a month, or 2.4 million yen a year. In my opinion, that kind of papa is definitely worth keeping. Conversely, a papa who pays a high allowance but only expects one round will be in high demand among women, so you may only be able to see him once a month. So while the amount of the allowance is important, also think about how much you’ll actually receive over the course of a year.

As a member of the staff, I, Kosaka, would also like to answer. First, during dinner, if the atmosphere feels comfortable enough to talk about it, I think it’s a good idea to say, “I’m not comfortable with things like that, so I’d rather you didn’t ask me to do them.” It may also help to ask in advance about a second or third round: “Is that something you usually expect?” It might be difficult to bring up, but it’s important to avoid any misunderstandings. As for the allowance, one of our male members has already answered that question, so I’ll refrain from commenting.

Wow, that’s a really difficult question. I’d suggest using the answer above as a reference, and beyond that, all I can say is: feel each other out and see how it goes. Every encounter is different, so I hope you don’t end up meeting someone like me—a poor salaried worker. Good luck!

> If things develop into an adult relationship (intimate) from the second meeting onward, what would the going rate be? You’ve probably already done some research into how much you’d ideally like to receive and how much other women are getting, so you likely have a rough range in mind. If so, it would be easier to answer if you shared that range. For example, if I said, “The going rate is ¥10,000,” you’d probably respond, “I’m not talking about dinner…” That would make it clear that you already know it isn’t just ¥10,000. With that in mind, there’s really no fixed going rate. I think it’s better to assume that no standard rate exists. Some women receive over ¥100,000 on a pay-per-meeting basis. To be more precise, many top-tier women receive allowances of over ¥100,000 per meeting. (They’re not common overall.) In some cases, if a woman is so exceptional that a man might only meet someone like her once a year, he may even offer ¥150,000 or ¥200,000 per meeting. That doesn’t mean the going rate is ¥100,000. People who receive that amount have reasons for doing so, and the allowance varies from person to person. So in your case, asking about the going rate probably isn’t very meaningful. I think you should focus more on: “How much can I receive?” For example: ① If a man asks how much allowance you want, you could say: “Whatever you think is appropriate. You decide how much I’m worth.” That way, you don’t have to name an amount yourself. Of course, if you happen to meet a bad man, you might end up receiving only ¥10,000. But if he genuinely likes you, he’ll give you the amount he feels is appropriate. After meeting several men, you’ll gradually get a sense of how much you can expect to receive. There is a risk that the allowance may be very low, but you simply don’t have to see that person again. You can just block him on LINE. ② You could start by asking for a slightly higher amount, such as, “I’m hoping for ¥100,000.” If he’s a good man, you may receive that amount, but there’s also a risk that he won’t meet you again. Still, if someone is willing to continue seeing you at that amount, you could pursue an arrangement with him. ③ On Q&A sites, many men say they offer ¥50,000, so if that amount feels acceptable to you, you could say that your desired allowance is ¥50,000. Recently, it seems that more women on dating apps are also asking for relatively high allowances, so the difference between dating apps and papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is gradually getting smaller. Even so, ¥50,000 still seems to be a fairly balanced amount, since it’s probably a little more than what you’d receive through a dating app. If it’s less than that, I feel you might as well try your luck with dating apps. That said, the amount women actually receive varies widely, so I think you should adjust it while gauging the other person’s reaction. It would be unfortunate if you had the potential to receive ¥100,000 but settled for ¥50,000.

The more you worry about tiny details, the more it starts to feel like a job or like you’re dealing with a professional, so it’s probably better not to overthink it. Just be more natural. The arrangement, feelings, and allowance will vary depending on the papa you’re seeing anyway… Even without an adult relationship (intimate), allowances can range widely—from 10,000 to 500,000 yen. Once an adult relationship is involved, that range becomes even wider. Hmm… or does it get narrower?? Depending on the man, it’s fine to adjust the allowance—say, anywhere from 0 to 400,000 yen. In my case, even with “black” women, it’s usually around 50,000 yen. Since “black” women often receive a lot from other papas, there are also cases where the allowance is zero—as long as they agree to meet me. It’s usually a bad move for the woman to bring up the allowance first, so I think it’s better to leave it up to the papa or answer when he asks. I’ve never increased the allowance just because we went for a second round. Though I may be more like an old man who can’t manage a second round anyway… If you feel the time is dragging on, I think it’s best to part ways without forcing yourself. A papa who pressures a woman he likes is no true papa.

Women don’t really know their own “class,” do they? You can probably get a rough idea by browsing adult-services websites and finding a place where you think you’d be accepted. Their price lists can be a useful reference, and the prices for add-ons can help too. I often go on dates without an adult relationship, and in those cases I use hostess-club companion fees as a guideline—say, two hours outside the club plus two hours inside, for a total of four hours. Also, I’ve mentioned this here several times, but which would you prefer: one session lasting an hour, or two five-minute sessions? For me, the amount of time matters; the number of times doesn’t. It sounds like you’ve received offers from several people, so I’d suggest feeling things out with the first few. When I was just starting out, I also learned a lot from the women I made offers to and gradually developed my own style.