Fuu’s beloved money-minded papas she’s met
“I want to do a little shopping before we go to the hotel.”
→ “Buy this for me.” (It was cosmetics, so it was kind of cute.)
For our next date, he wanted to meet at the handbag section of a department store.
→ “There’s a bag I really want.”
→ “Buy it yourself with your allowance, lol.”
Allowance paid upfront, then after I undressed in bed:
→ “If you want oral, that’s an extra ¥〇〇.”
→ “If you want to go all the way, that’s an extra ¥〇〇.”
→ “If you want it without protection, that’s an extra ¥〇〇.”
An options menu?! LOL. Total mood-killer, so I called it a night!
He was cute, so I really made an effort:
a yakiniku dinner with a night view, followed by a room at a city hotel with a night view…
But then, surprise—he turned out to be an adult-entertainment pro?! What a disappointment!
My beloved money-minded papas who were immediate goodbye cases.
I don’t know if I’d call it materialistic, but if she asks by LINE for a higher allowance after we’ve gone out a few times at the amount agreed on at the first meeting, I cut things off immediately.
I understand that she’s saying it because she’s getting more offers from other people and is prepared to be dropped, though.
Sorry, this doesn’t really answer the question, but I have to say, the term “materialist” sounds pretty dated these days too.
If it were me, I’d probably just blurt out something like, “What’s with all the money, money, money?” or “Why should I give someone like you that much?” But the word “materialist” has a certain old-fashioned quality to it, and honestly, it’s kind of funny (no offense!). Depending on the situation, I might even burst out laughing.
So rather than taking it as a genuinely hurtful comment, it might be better for your mental health to just think, “Well, I got called something kind of weird,” and move on. Hopefully you’ll find a better company president next time.
Personally, if I feel that a girl is overly money-minded, I just pay her quietly and leave. Nothing good comes from trading insults.
Women registered with these clubs all have their own circumstances, but aren’t they all at least somewhat money-minded?
For a man to go out of his way to point that out—after willingly signing up with the club himself—is pretty astonishing!
I think you should just hold your head high.
Personally, though, I might quietly walk away… lol
Of all the people I met through the club, there was one who asked for a gift at our first meeting. I immediately decided she wasn’t for me and didn’t continue seeing her.
> Mac
A sex-crazed monster who pays ¥50,000 just for sex! You’re awesome!
I look up to you, Mac, and generally set my allowance at ¥50,000 too—but once, when I was really worked up, I compromised and paid ¥60,000. I still have a long way to go.
By the way, someone once told me, “You’re nothing but a pay-per-meeting guy!”
I think it’s rare to find someone who doesn’t want money, but the desire for money is just as embarrassing as your genitals, so you should put some underwear on it and keep it hidden. Maybe they called you a money worshipper because yours was so exposed and obvious?
By the way, a girl once called me a “sex-drive monster.” If you had to be called either a “money worshipper” or a “sex-drive monster,” which would you prefer? I was kind of proud of being called a “sex-drive monster.”
Also, during an ugly confrontation, a girl once yelled at me, “You’re nothing more than someone who pays ¥50,000 to have sex!” Since that was completely true, I wasn’t offended at all. In fact, I thought that if that was the worst insult she could come up with, maybe I could actually feel pretty confident about myself.
What kinds of things have the other respondents been called? I’m a little curious.
Yossan
Thank you. “You’re nothing but a pay-per-meeting guy” is pretty cool too. Mutter, “That has nothing to do with me,” then walk away like Monjiro Kogarashi. If Monjiro is too old-fashioned, then Cart or Max from Milky Subway would work. The aesthetics of keeping your distance from other people. A girl shouldn’t do this, though. It works because you’re a man—it gives you a wistful, melancholy air.
Women who worship money are welcome here. Welcome, Your Lordship. Unko Taro, why don’t you write an answer once in a while? The characters for “money” and “balls” got mixed together—it’s a ballsy coincidence.
P.S.
I just realized something: a money worshipper probably wouldn’t spend money on papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). Money is more important to them.
Nichigetsu Arata
How about replying, “I’m a money-distribution enthusiast”?
When it came time for penetration, she said, “Are you going to put on a condom?” I replied, “Wait, you don’t need me to wear one?” She said, “Well, maybe if you add a little extra, haha.” I remember thinking, “She’s pretty shrewd—good for her! So it all comes down to money, huh? Haha.”
When someone calls you “haikinshugisha,” the fact that you can immediately think of the kanji makes you pretty intellectual.
It’s not a word you hear much these days, and we don’t even know what the person really meant by it. If you’re not going to see them again, there’s no need to overanalyze it or adjust yourself to their way of thinking. Just consider yourself lucky to be rid of such a strange person.
I kind of want someone to call me “haikinshugisha,” too. I’d probably think of kanji like “back muscles” or “reinforcing bars” and wouldn’t be able to come up with a quick, clever comeback.
> Mac
“Money-allocation idealist” sounds pretty cool. But I’m actually quite stingy, so it might end up being a lie.
I met up with a girl who has a bad reputation, and since she wasn’t my type looks-wise, I was planning to turn her down. I offered a low allowance—just one unit above the going rate—and she actually said yes, so now I’m confused.
I guess there are girls in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) who are the exact opposite of money-minded.
As long as men expect women to be young, cute, and well-endowed, there’s nothing wrong with women being money-minded. It’s a trade, after all.
The time I thought a woman was really money-minded was when she asked for an allowance of 10, I gave her 10, and then she said, “Could you also pay for the dinner date?” That made me think, “Wow, she really is money-minded.”
At Uchu Club, women are there to receive an allowance, while men are there to win them over—perhaps “take them by force”?—with the power of money. Either way, money is involved.
That said, everything has its limits, and people generally overlook their own shortcomings. From a man’s perspective, if he doesn’t get more satisfaction than the amount he paid for, he may feel like saying, “You’re so money-minded!” Since there’s no objective standard for this, my opinion is that you don’t need to worry about it unfairly. However, replying, “I’m money-minded? Look who’s talking!” would only lower your own value, so try to hold it in.
If you’re feeling unsettled, try slipping under the red lantern outside a place near the Konan Exit of Shinagawa Station, enjoying some grilled squid with a glass of shochu flavored with red pickled ginger. It’ll calm you down. And of course—no, if I just happened to be sitting next to you, please let me treat you to a Kinmiya refill, leaving the red pickled ginger at the bottom of your mug untouched.
If you keep making little comments like:
“Buy me this.”
“Buy me that.”
“My birthday’s coming up—I want a present.”
“Can you raise my allowance?”
then maybe that’s why he said it.
But normally, people just part ways without saying anything, so I wonder why he brought it up. Strange.
I’ve never thought of women as “money-grubbers,” but when a woman rejects me, I sometimes comfort myself with the convenient excuse that it must be because I’m poor.
Try running a business yourself. You’ll stop thinking of business owners as “money-grubbers.”
P.S.
Actually, women doing papa-katsu are kind of like sole proprietors—or business owners—too.
I imagine that only a small handful of women are able to have an ideal papa-katsu experience, and that most of them go through a considerable amount of hardship.
I think a business owner’s pursuit of money is different from the questioner’s.
For a business owner, making money isn’t just for themselves—it’s also necessary, to some extent, to support their employees’ livelihoods.
By contrast, isn’t the questioner’s focus on money solely for their own benefit?
That’s when it comes across as being overly money-minded.
Weren’t you being too focused on the money?
Maybe they got that impression because you came on too strong and put money front and center.
