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I’m a man in my mid-50s. I haven’t been doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) for very long, so I’d like to ask the women here.

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- I’ve only met women who list their relationship type as B or C. B means they meet with the understanding that they won’t have an adult relationship (intimate) on the first meeting, while C means they may or may not. However, almost all of them ask, “What shall we do after this?” In B cases especially, I often haven’t brought any money or looked up a hotel, so it puts me in a difficult position. Do women simply not pay much attention to how their profile is displayed? - As for the allowance in these situations, they usually suggest an amount that’s slightly higher than I had in mind. If I were to continue seeing them, that amount would be difficult for me, but I don’t feel comfortable haggling. I’m worried it would dampen their feelings, so I usually just go along with what they ask. Is that the right approach? Would it be okay to be more upfront about my budget?
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First, regarding your first point, I think most women meet someone after having a basic understanding of their dating type. At the very least, it’s not common for someone to meet without knowing whether the woman is type B or C. With that in mind, the question, “What would you like to do after this?” is often meant as an invitation when she’s type C. However, for type B, it can also simply carry the nuance of asking, “Shall we call it a day here?” or “Would you like to go somewhere else?” To be honest, women who actively seek an adult relationship (intimate) from the very first date while being type B are in the minority. Considering that, it’s entirely possible that she finds you attractive and has become more open to the idea. As for the allowance, I think it’s perfectly fine to state your feelings clearly without holding back—especially if you’d like the relationship to continue long-term. She may simply be suggesting, “How about starting with this amount?” If you explain your circumstances and preferred pace, there’s no problem as long as you can both agree on terms that you’re comfortable with. If you push yourself too far, it will eventually become difficult. Being honest from the beginning will likely make it easier for the relationship to continue. That said, this is only a generalization. If you personally feel strongly that she’s wonderful and that you’d like to continue seeing her, then the amount she suggested may reflect her own standards. Whether you can accept it may be less about the terms and more about how you feel about her. Don’t overextend yourself. But if it’s an amount you can comfortably agree to, that’s also a valid choice. From your post, you come across as sincere and considerate, so I hope you’ll value your own pace and approach the relationship accordingly.
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
The self-deprecating “old guy” comment makes me wonder if this is a question from someone pretending to be a woman. If you can get it done for a B, consider yourself lucky. I wouldn’t make an offer to a B, though—just saying. As for the allowance, if it’s too much, just lower it. If you want to do it, make the offer as is.
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名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
One thing I’ll say as a guy: you never know when an opportunity might come up, so always keep some cash and condoms in your wallet. That’s all. By the way, if you go for a drive and forget condoms, most girls usually have one for emergencies if you ask—often tucked behind their pocket tissue pack.
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> Almost all of them ask, “What would you like to do after this?” If the woman is a B, there’s a 99% chance she isn’t inviting you to a hotel. She probably means exactly what she says: “What would you like to do after this?” It’s unlikely that she’s saying she wants to go to a hotel. In other words, many men suggest going out for drinks after dinner. Naturally, in that case, you need to give the woman a separate allowance after dinner, but since it isn’t a particularly large amount, some people are happy to have drinks together and enjoy themselves. So, when she asks, “What would you like to do after this?”, I think it would be fine to arrange the next date, or simply say goodbye and go home. If the woman is a C, she’ll be judging during dinner to see whether the man seems acceptable. If she decides he is, then she’ll ask, “What would you like to do after this?” In that sense, I think the questioner’s understanding is correct. C types are generally the kind of women who will proceed to an adult relationship from the first date if the chemistry is right. So if you weren’t prepared for that on the first date, I’d wonder why you made an offer to a C in the first place. From the woman’s perspective, not being invited on the first date means the chemistry wasn’t there. With that in mind, since you intend to end the first date after dinner, you should make offers to B women. You probably shouldn’t make offers to C women. There’s simply too much of a mismatch in expectations. > “I’ll basically do whatever she says, but what do you think about this?” You have two choices: either go along with it or decline. Naturally, you shouldn’t try to negotiate her down. If you do, she’ll feel uncomfortable about it too, and the arrangement ultimately won’t last. If her wishes and yours don’t match, I think it’s fine to handle things the same way you have been. If it’s too expensive and difficult for you, then perhaps this simply isn’t the right place for you, and you’d be better off switching to an app. With an app, you can probably negotiate the terms before meeting, which may suit what you’re looking for better.
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m not a woman, but I’ll answer. Naturally, women consider various factors when choosing their type. I think it becomes easier to understand if you put yourself in their shoes. From a woman’s perspective, you never know what kind of man will show up. If she selects C, she’ll almost certainly be invited to an adult relationship (intimate) after dinner, and if she turns him down, he may complain. There’s also a chance he’ll blatantly give her a low rating in the feedback survey. That’s why, if they can agree on the allowance, choosing C probably leads to an adult relationship (intimate) in a very high percentage of cases. In my experience, the only cases where a woman who selected C didn’t have an adult relationship (intimate) were when she and the man couldn’t agree on the allowance. On the other hand, if she selects B2, men are less likely to invite her out during the first date. If they meet in person and she decides she doesn’t want an adult relationship (intimate) with him, she can simply turn down a second date via LINE after they part ways, and things can end peacefully. That’s why a certain number of women choose B2, in case the man they meet turns out to be someone they don’t like. As for this particular case, she watched how the man behaved during dinner and decided that she would be open to an adult relationship (intimate) with him if they could agree on the allowance. So, even though it was their first date, she invited him to continue the evening because he had no particular plans after dinner. That’s probably what happened. Incidentally, if the same thing happens with a woman who selected B1, you must be quite an attractive, mature gentleman. B1 feels closer to A, while B2 feels closer to C.
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I think everyone understands the different relationship types. Regardless of the type, when inviting someone on a first date, it’s best to let them know beforehand that it will be dinner only (no intimacy). That way, you’ll only need to discuss what happens next time. As for the allowance, I assume you generally pay what’s being requested, right? That’s probably why these arrangements don’t last long. For men, it can’t be written off as a business expense, so it really depends on how much disposable cash they have(笑). The only people who can maintain a long-term arrangement are those who either meet less frequently, have fewer partners, or are wealthy. Take that into consideration and decide what kind of arrangement works for you.
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