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Dec 11, 2025 01:29
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I don’t give out my LINE because it’s registered under my real name. We communicate exclusively by SMS. Do any of you ever reveal your real name or your true self to the women you meet? I’ve met around ten women so far, but I haven’t been able to build a deeper relationship with any of them.
I’m still not quite sure how to approach papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). In particular, is it rude to give a Type C woman her dinner allowance as soon as you meet her?
Sorry that my questions and thoughts were all mixed together and difficult to read.
7 answers
横断歩道
Male
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🏅 デート開拓者
ユニバース5年目。女性とはいろいろな商業施設に行ってデートしています。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Giving her money right after meeting is a “transportation fee,” not an “allowance.”
As I understand it, with the current Type C arrangement, the first two hours are for the first meeting, and the next two hours are for private dating, where an allowance is paid.
During the first meeting, you agree on the allowance, and then:
1. You part ways without moving on to private dating (no allowance)
2. You move on to private dating without an adult relationship on the first day (pay the allowance for no intimacy)
3. You move on to private dating with an adult relationship from the first day (pay the allowance for intimacy)
In my case, No. 2 is the most common.
That said, I usually finish the first meeting within an hour and then move on to private dating with an allowance. I follow the same arrangement with Type B, so I pay the allowance for no intimacy separately from the transportation fee.
I’ve spent many years going to hostess clubs, so I’ve always considered it normal for both people to continue seeing each other for years without revealing their real names. At this club too, we continue seeing each other for years under our club names.
Revealing your real name right away can make the other person feel as though you’re pressuring them to disclose their personal information as well.
You’ve only met about ten women so far, right? Experiencing different things can be part of the fun.
I don’t drink, so I don’t take women to places known for good drinks. And if I’m going to spend money on a meal, I find it more enjoyable to go shopping and buy her a souvenir instead.
Find your own style, then look for women who suit it.
Additional note:
Even among Type C women, quite a few are actually Type B once you talk with them.
With Type D, though, an arrangement without an adult relationship is understandably out of the question.
For no-intimacy dates, I pay about the same amount as I would at a hostess club.
Meg
Female
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🏅 修行の身
光と影
Age: 50s
👩 Female
Former Universe member
Too formal—no, seriously, way too stiff.
I mean, even your messages are rigid as a board, aren’t they?
You should try being a little softer with women, you know.
I do like it when a certain part of you is hard, though ♡
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Why offer C? You should’ve offered A or B instead.
If you put yourself in her shoes, I think you’d understand.
She’s doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) because she wants money, and she chose C because she’s okay with an adult relationship (intimate) from the first meeting. If she seemed willing to go ahead, but the papa (a male supporter) only offered a dinner-only allowance, of course she’d be disappointed.
You offered C, and whether you feel attracted to her or not is your choice. But if you’re not going to have an adult relationship (intimate), I think things would go more smoothly if you gave her the allowance intended for that anyway.
If you can’t even read the atmosphere, then even though papa-katsu involves money, I can’t imagine things working out well for you here.
It may be papa-katsu involving money, but you’re still dealing with another person. Self-centered people usually don’t do well.
👨 Male
Universe member
I’ll give you the transportation money as soon as we meet.
The allowance is something I give once we’ve decided to start seeing each other.
The reason things aren’t deepening very quickly is that we’re both feeling each other out. After meeting a few times, you gradually get a better sense of one another. Share information little by little, see how the relationship develops, and figure out whether the chemistry works or not. There’s no need to rush!
The answer will become clear in time, so I don’t think there’s any need to hurry.
P.S.
Oh! (゚o゚)/
Meg, long time no see!
I’m glad to hear you’re doing well.
Please drop by and answer questions occasionally(笑)
I’ve been doing well too, quietly keeping a low profile(笑)
My current partner asked to end things as of March, so we agreed to bring our relationship of nearly eight years to an end.
I’m currently looking for someone new, but it’s proving quite difficult(笑)
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Women in Type C come expecting to take home ¥50,000, so even if it’s dinner only, you should give them the full ¥50,000.
I reveal my real name and true self within 15 minutes of meeting. You won’t become close unless you share a certain amount of personal information. If you act condescending or overly guarded, you won’t get close to someone even after meeting 20 people.
I exchange LINE with almost everyone within an hour of meeting them. I’ve never been turned down.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Why not exchange LINE contacts on the first day?
When they do, women generally fall into categories such as:
- Using their real name
- Using a nickname or initials that are close to their real name
- Using a name that reminds you of their club name
- Using a single character or symbol that gives no clue to their real name
The way you interact and the nature of the relationship will naturally become clearer.
In my case, the women I end up seeing for a long time are those who use their real names from the beginning. Since I also use my real name on LINE, I feel reassured when we exchange contacts and both names are genuine.
These days, I usually exchange LINE contacts fairly early after meeting. I think it gives both people a sense of security because you can see how the other person uses LINE—and get a feel for what kind of relationship they’re looking for. (Most of the women I make offers to use their real names on LINE rather than their club names.)
If someone uses a single character or a name that doesn’t suggest their real name, you can assume they may be in contact with people they don’t want you to know about. It also means you can’t really tell how much papa-katsu they’re doing—or necessarily take everything they say at face value.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
> Is it rude to give a dinner allowance to a Type C woman as soon as you meet her?
Under Universe Club’s rules, men are supposed to give women a token of appreciation, referred to as transportation expenses, when they meet for a meal. So I don’t think there’s anything wrong with giving her the dinner allowance right after you meet—it follows the rules.
That said, it’s usually given after you sit down for the meal, so a woman might be a little surprised to receive it immediately after meeting you. But if your goal is to avoid forgetting, giving it right away is probably the least forgettable option.
In other words, it isn’t rude. However, if you’re worried about forgetting, I recommend giving it to her as soon as you sit down for the meal.
> Even with Type C women, I only give them the dinner allowance at the beginning.
Even with a Type C woman, if you don’t click, you may end up parting ways after dinner only. So if you’re telling a Type C woman that you’ll be wrapping things up after the meal, it may come across as a sign that you didn’t feel a connection with her.
If that’s how you feel, I think you’d be better off making offers to Type B1 or B2 women instead of Type C women. Those women choose B1 or B2 because they feel the same way you do, so you’ll probably be better off meeting someone who shares your outlook.
> I’ve met around ten women so far, but I haven’t been able to build a deeper relationship with any of them.
It’s hard to know the cause from this message alone, but it may help to consider things like:
- Whether your clothes look appropriate—in other words, whether you look reasonably well-dressed from the woman’s perspective
- Whether the conversation is enjoyable from her perspective
- Whether your allowance is appropriate
Those would be good places to start.