Maybe it’s because I’m getting older and my sex drive has declined, but I’ve started to feel that an adult relationship (intimate) would be a burden. I’m considering making an offer to an A-type woman, but what is the usual allowance for the second meeting onward?

I think it’s best to let go of the idea that Type A women are cheap to date simply because they don’t have an adult relationship. Thinking that ¥5,000 an hour is a lot for enjoying a nice meal is a male perspective. For example, the average hourly wage for hostesses at Ginza clubs seems to be around ¥6,000. Women also go to the hair salon, dress up, and spend both time and transportation costs getting to the date. Taking that into account, ¥10,000 for a two-hour meal works out to an actual hourly rate of only about ¥2,500. Unless it’s a genuinely enjoyable date, entertaining an older man you aren’t particularly close to isn’t exactly the most rewarding way to make pocket money. I think the reason ¥10,000 for two hours is standard for the first meal in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is that an adult relationship (intimate) may follow afterward.

As advice to the person asking, I think it’s best to look for a woman you’d still want to keep seeing even after your adult relationship becomes dinner only (no intimacy). Rather than searching for someone who’s purely an A type, I’d recommend meeting someone as a B, C, or D type and gradually becoming an A-type relationship from there. The woman I’m closest to was originally a B type. We had an adult relationship for quite a long time, but our relationship gradually changed, and now we only meet for dinner. Her allowance hasn’t changed at all from when we had an adult relationship—I give her an average of ¥100,000 or more for dinner only. In terms of how often we meet, I see her more than anyone else, even more than my ace. There are women I’ve been seeing for over three years as A types without an adult relationship from the start, as well as a teenage A type I met recently. We’re friendly, but I don’t know how to put it—I don’t develop that same emotional attachment. Even when we travel and stay overnight, I only give them around ¥50,000. I don’t feel inclined to give them more than that, and I doubt we’ll ever become close enough for me to want to share my life with them.

I also often go to hostess clubs, including accompanying a hostess to dinner or meeting up after hours, so I have no problem paying without an adult relationship (intimate). On an hourly basis, it ranges from ¥3,000 to ¥30,000—with ¥30,000 being for someone with connections to entertainment or a model, for example. For Platinum-class women, I’d say around ¥5,000 to ¥10,000. There are also many women who are actually A-type but list themselves as B1 because they want to receive more offers, so it’s worth keeping that in mind. Hopefully, you’ll find someone who suits your preferences.

> Since my sex drive has declined with age, I’ve started finding adult relationships burdensome. So your sex drive has declined, but your desire for female companionship hasn’t? Do you mean you’re looking for someone to talk to? > I’d feel bad if our financial expectations were too far apart, so I’d appreciate knowing the general going rate and trends. As for current trends, it seems that more women are gradually moving away from low-margin, high-volume arrangements. As a result, even for dinner only (no intimacy), more women are asking for roughly: - ¥10,000 per hour for those who consider themselves average or below - ¥20,000 per hour for those who are confident in their looks You might think, “¥20,000 just for dinner?” but apparently they can still find partners. So if you’re budgeting ¥5,000 per hour, you’ll need to be prepared to look specifically for women who are willing to accept that. Incidentally, I get the impression that many women asking for ¥5,000 are only offering a first meeting lasting around 30 minutes. In that case, ¥10,000 per hour may be the median, so your chances may improve somewhat if you budget around that amount. And if you want someone who’s beautiful and suits your tastes, your chances will improve even more if you budget ¥20,000 per hour. In the first place, you said adult relationships had become burdensome because your sex drive had declined. So why not simply look for someone who doesn’t require intimacy, while offering the same amount you used to pay for an adult relationship? It seems like that would greatly reduce the effort involved in finding someone. I honestly don’t understand why that idea didn’t occur to you. If the real reason is that you’ve run out of money rather than losing your sex drive, it seems like you should just say so.

It varies from person to person—everyone has a different sense of money. You’re not going to get a definitive answer by asking people who aren’t directly involved.

If you’ve gotten older and lost your sex drive, you should just quit papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). I’m not nitpicking—this is my honest opinion. If your brain still wants women, that means you still have a sex drive, so all that’s left is dick training. Aren’t you just feeling too lazy and bothered? It’s the same as working out. If you stop, your function will keep declining. It’s not really about papa-katsu; you just don’t seem to have enough desire to remain a man. That’s how it looks to me, but do whatever you want. As for the money, there are some really nasty women out there known as “gift-seeking girls”—women who manipulate men into giving them money. They’re often hiding among the attractive A or B1 types. If an A-type girl has a monthly target of 150,000 yen, she may start at 5,000 yen an hour, then bring up sad stories and how she’s still working hard despite everything. Basically, I think she’s saying she wants to receive at least 150,000 yen a month from each papa (a male supporter). There’s no upper limit. I consider every A-type girl a potential gift-seeking girl. To put it simply, A-types are just like hosts: they use romance-based sales tactics. I don’t think you should take them lightly. Mr. Loser is, to put it another way, like a woman who’s hooked on a host but refuses to admit it, saying, “I’m not just some host-obsessed girl showering him with gifts. I’m someone he asked to pay out of my own pocket and go to the club for him.” Every one of them ends up being used to satisfy the host’s sexual needs and contracts an STI through unprotected sex. Anyway, you should understand that this isn’t a world that’s kind to frail old men. No one pays attention to papa-katsu girls once they’ve aged and lost their looks, right? It’s the same thing. In fact, because they know that, papa-katsu girls show no mercy to men who are getting old and weak. This isn’t nursing care or social welfare. That’s the playing field here. On the other hand, if you keep throwing money at it, someone will probably keep seeing you forever. Though in the end, I guess they’ll be vultures. You’ll probably start seeing the vultures coming to peck at your flesh as cute little finches perched on your hand. As for the profile of an “A-type girl with a monthly target of 150,000 yen”: if she doesn’t want an adult relationship (intimate), she could easily earn that much working normally at a hostess club. The fact that she doesn’t suggests she either can’t drink, doesn’t get along well with the other hostesses, or simply prefers working solo. Working solo means being a gift-seeking girl. It’s basically a one-woman hostess club. Actually, why doesn’t the questioner just go to a hostess club? I’ve never been, so what do I know? I just searched for it, and I found an “A-type girl with a monthly target of 150,000 yen” in under a minute. The one wearing the white sweater, right? That smile really does give me that impression. Though I could be wrong, lol.

Why not just ask him directly? Everyone’s different, after all. If you want to keep seeing him, don’t decide on your own—adjust to what he wants too. Fuu is based on adult relationships (intimate), so I honestly have a hard time understanding why people use a club without that. If you’re not looking for an adult relationship, and you have a reasonable amount of money, you could probably find women to have drinks with, or go out for meals and drinks with women from clubs or hostess bars. You probably don’t need to fixate on a dating club. Looking at a wider range of options—including rental girlfriends and paid drinking companions—might give you better value for money. But if you are looking for an adult relationship, this is probably the quickest route.

¥5,000 an hour sounds pretty reasonable to me. I pay about that much for dinner only as well. Since your monthly target is the combined total from multiple supporters, I don’t think you need to worry about it too much. If you weren’t seeing any other men, I’d want to cover the whole amount for you, though.