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May 25, 2024 21:56
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https://universe-club.jp/help/questions/view/16785
In your answers to the question above, Aya said, “Offering an allowance higher than the going rate increases the chances of a repeat,” while Flag Maker said, “If you’re prepared to offer more than the going rate, there’s no need to negotiate the allowance.”
In that case, roughly how much do you have in mind when you say “the going rate” or “above the going rate”?
I assume the going rate varies depending on the woman, so could you give us an idea of what you consider the going rate in the following cases?
(1) A Black-level woman
(2) A Platinum-level woman
I also seem to recall that previous questions included opinions such as “There is no going rate for allowances,” and that women in the Gold category were more likely than Black- or Platinum-level women to request a relatively high pay-per-meeting allowance of 100,000 yen or more.
So I understand that there are various opinions regarding the going rate for allowances, but I would appreciate it if Aya and Flag Maker could share the kind of figures they have in mind based on their experience so far.
Also, the amount a woman considers the going rate—or rather, the amount she hopes to receive—may vary depending on the man’s appeal, such as his appearance, age, cleanliness, and personality. Please give your advice assuming a fairly average male member.
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Honestly, it’s impossible to say without actually seeing what you look like.
Depending on your overall profile, there may be women willing to open up to you physically and emotionally for ¥30,000. Conversely, there may be women who wouldn’t want to, even for ¥100,000.
Still, let me give it some thought.
For example, my papa (a male supporter) is:
- A former handsome guy who was one of the popular kids in high school
- No body odor or bad breath whatsoever
- Almost no contact except to arrange dates
- Pays ¥80,000 for meeting at 11 p.m. and parting at 7 a.m.
- The adult relationship (intimate) lasts 15 minutes, with no kissing or oral sex
This is just one papa’s case, but my impression is that about 80% of women come back for another meeting under these terms.
That said, once a papa is 48 or older, even paying ¥70,000–¥80,000 often wasn’t enough to get repeat dates with college girls.
papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is just like romance or marriage.
Anyone can probably manage to have sex, but if you want a genuinely satisfying relationship, you have to compromise where your terms and the woman’s terms balance out.
Most men are probably unattractive, take too long during sex, have strong body odor, or demand frequent contact—and yet only offer an allowance of ¥30,000 or ¥50,000.
You may still find a woman willing to date you, but if another man appears who offers that same woman ¥100,000 and is handsome inside and out, you have absolutely no chance. That’s simply how this world works.
The same goes for women.
If a woman is only average in every respect—her face, appearance, personality, and figure—then to date a man who is an 80, she has to compromise for less money than she thinks she’s worth.
Finally, here’s a quote from my papa (though it may be more of a silly saying than a wise one):
“I know younger men are more popular with women than old guys, even if they’re broke. But if you’re young and have money, that’s even better, right? In the end, women prefer men who are both young and wealthy.”
Since you papas can no longer become young and wealthy, I think you’ll have to figure out for yourselves how to meet your ideal woman while carrying that disadvantage.
It’s not something money alone can solve, nor is it something communication alone can solve.
Let’s both do our best.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
Why should I give away for free the experience I paid for and gained on my own? If you give me an allowance above the going rate, I’ll tell you right away.
The fun of this journey is figuring those things out for yourself. The whole “strategy guide” culture is outdated—let’s move on.