Tips May 23, 2024 21:19

I never seem to make it past the first meeting with men.

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During the first meeting, they often compliment me and say things like, “When can I see you again?” or “Are you sure you’re okay with me?” So I feel like things are going well. (Based on my past experience, I don’t think I’m just imagining it.) But after we part ways, we exchange a few messages for several days, then things just naturally fade out. When I showed my LINE messages to a friend, they said, “This isn’t fun to read.” I assume that if a man really likes me, he’ll pursue me, so I don’t ask things like, “When can we meet again?” or make the first move. My LINE messages are pretty dry too. Is that why things never lead to a second meeting? Even if a woman’s messages are dry, will a man who really likes her still pursue her?
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As you already seem to realize, the somewhat dry LINE messages may be part of the problem. When I occasionally happen to see a papa’s phone, setting aside whether I should be looking at it or not, I notice that his messages with me are quite different from those with other papa-katsu girls. I feel like a lot of ordinary girls don’t show enough gratitude or flirtatiousness in their LINE exchanges. Maybe that’s what people mean by being “dry.” Even though they’ve gone on a date and received a substantial allowance, their thanks often end with a simple “Thank you so much!” There are also so many girls who never send any flirty follow-up messages like, “That felt so good—I’ve never experienced anything like that before…♡” If you don’t do that, you can’t stand out from the other girls, and you’ll lose out. I thank them for the money I received two or three times. For example, I often tell them what I used it for. In fact, I usually save it rather than spend it, so I’ll mention that—or say something like, “I bought my grandmother a birthday present.” That makes you sound like such a good girl, right? You shouldn’t lie, but if you’re sensible and responsible, you need to highlight that as much as possible. And of course, papas like flirty girls, so even if a girl doesn’t express much gratitude for the money, girls who mention intimate things in their messages tend to get repeat dates. Girls might think, “That’s so gross,” but papas really do want to be recognized as men by younger women. They’re starved for stories like, “I was so happy that you showed me new things.” However, if you only emphasize the flirty side, they may never see your personality, and you could end up coming across like a sex worker. So you’re more likely to be chosen by a generous (well-paying) papa if you show both gratitude for the money—making it clear that you’re honest, sensible, and sweet—and flirtiness, which gives him the feeling that he can bring out his masculine side. Being flirty alone may get you repeat dates, but in the end, you’ll lose out to girls with genuinely appealing personalities when it comes to being financially supported. The girls who make a papa think, “By giving this girl money, I’m helping her life change for the better,” are ultimately the ones who are sweet and genuine at heart. “Having a cute personality” is pretty vague and may be difficult to put into practice, but I think even simply highlighting your flirty side could make a difference. Give it a try. Good luck.
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関西在住で多趣味です。 最近、筋トレにて、体重は減っていないのに、ウエストは減りまくりで、筋肉の増量と体脂肪の減量との両立を実現しております。 スタンダードクラス、ゴールドクラスで磨くと光りそうな方にオファーすることが多いです。
Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
The papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) market is a buyer’s market, so men have the upper hand. It’s only natural to give up on unfulfilling exchanges with a woman who isn’t proactive after meeting once and move on to someone else. Are you doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) because you want to repeatedly meet first-time clients for an adult relationship (intimate), eventually becoming like a sex worker? If so, you’d be better off becoming a sex worker—you wouldn’t have to deal with awkward LINE messages and such. That might actually be more in line with what you really want.
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I don’t come on too strong over LINE. That said, if we seem to click at the first meeting, I usually set up our second date before the day is over. Things move faster when you discuss it in person.
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🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
Are you kidding? LOL That completely misses the point. The target persona for this business is men who aren’t popular and lack confidence, yet the marketing—or rather, sales—strategy is wildly off base. Before worrying about papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), start by reading some business books.
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Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
When the chemistry is really good and I’m getting a positive vibe, I don’t ask things like: “ When can we meet again?” or “Am I good enough for you?” Those kinds of lines may also mean that he doesn’t particularly want to meet again or didn’t get a good impression. Maybe it’s better to express your feelings more openly through your facial expressions. Also, men are reaching out to women they like enough to pursue enthusiastically, but they don’t want it to be one-sided. So, to see how the woman responds, they never initiate contact. If she stops reaching out, things naturally fade away—and that seems reasonable for maintaining a mutual relationship. I also think it’s nice when the relationship continues in a positive cycle: the man makes the woman happy and helps her enjoy herself, and she responds by reaching out warmly.
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ユニバース5年目。女性とはいろいろな商業施設に行ってデートしています。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
It’s scary when someone comes on too strong before you’ve even gotten to know each other. If I don’t get a positive response on LINE, I just move on quickly.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
Men are all different, of course, but I don’t come on strong. It would be creepy to get pushy messages from some older guy you’ve only met a few times. Basically, I don’t usually ask to meet a second time myself. So if her messages are short and lacking in enthusiasm, I just keep things to polite small talk and let it end there.
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
I don’t think LINE has that much to do with it. I think it’s probably because the sex is rather plain and not enjoyable, so it doesn’t feel worth the allowance, and they decide to look for another woman. Even if they’re lying, men will usually give you plenty of compliments the first time. Your appearance is probably quite good, don’t you think? There are plenty of rivals among the women at these clubs, so if you don’t have some kind of appealing quality, men will switch to someone else lol. Men can choose, and they want an arrangement that offers good value for money and feels worth the allowance. The same goes for women, right? Men who offer a good allowance, or even those who offer an average allowance but have few—or no—negative points, are the ones women choose. To enjoy being active here, both men and women need to think about how to make themselves the one who gets chosen.
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