Tips Nov 9, 2023 02:59

About Christmas presents

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I’m assuming that papa supporters who give Christmas presents—or cash in lieu of one—are pretty rare to begin with. Is that right? I understand when someone adds a little extra. What I find strange are presents worth hundreds of thousands of yen. I think the basic allowance is usually around ¥50,000. Presents worth ¥10,000–¥150,000 still seem possible, but I’ve rarely encountered anything beyond that. The only papa who ever gave me an expensive present was someone who had genuinely fallen for me. Of course, there may be girls who have only ever received expensive presents, but I feel like that’s probably the exception. When asked what I want for Christmas, if saying “I don’t need anything” is the proper response and good manners as a papa-katsu girl, then it seems like Christmas will basically pass without anything happening. Is it really a matter of whoever gets their papa to buy them something winning? I don’t have anything I want, so I’ve never asked for anything. I also wouldn’t go out of my way to have someone buy me something with a high resale value just so I could sell it. I’m not very good at lying. I’m grateful just to receive my allowance, but around this time of year, girls who get expensive presents from men start competing to show them off, and it’s really painful to see. I assume a lot of them are probably in the nightlife industry, but within papa-katsu, are supporters who buy expensive presents actually almost nonexistent? Maybe there are a few like that, and they’re simply papas on a level I would never be able to meet. I feel like I understand reality, but around Christmas I still find myself dreaming of something glamorous. I’d appreciate some honest opinions from the men’s perspective—a bit of a reality check, please.
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What you consider common sense isn’t everyone’s standard. Some supporters give gifts, while others don’t. Women who receive expensive gifts are generally women who bring something special to the table. The expensive gifts I’ve received include a water heater with a large storage tank, two air conditioners, and a three-burner induction cooktop for an all-electric home—all including installation.
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I give gifts to my girlfriend or wife, so if there’s a woman I like even more—whether she’s from a club or not—I’ll give her gifts that reflect that. When I enter into a relationship, I do so expecting that I’ll spend several million yen, or even over ten million yen, on her over many years. Gifts are only a small part of that. When you look at it over the long term, even a gift worth several hundred thousand yen—or several million yen—doesn’t seem particularly expensive. The first gift after meeting is important too, so I’ll choose something she actually wants at the time, regardless of whether it’s expensive, so that she’ll be happy. It’s not simply a matter of whether someone has money or can afford to spend it. I think it’s difficult unless you really like the other person and believe in how strong the relationship is and whether it can continue long-term. Also, I’d prefer to avoid relationships with women who place too much emphasis on their allowance or gifts. Those relationships are difficult to sustain anyway… Even with a club woman, when starting a relationship, things often progress without discussing or negotiating an allowance, and without even deciding on an amount. So a relationship with a woman who insists on negotiating her allowance first is unlikely to progress. > Is it correct to assume that there are hardly any men who will buy expensive gifts? That’s probably true if it’s a transactional relationship, and I think it depends on what you place importance on. (Though there are people in transactional relationships who receive expensive gifts…perhaps the odds are just low.) If you marry and become someone’s wife, there are cases where your husband may buy you a house or land worth tens of millions of yen. But in most cases, that isn’t because you were after money or expensive things. Club relationships are similar in that respect. If you become greedy, you may receive a lot of allowances from multiple relationships, but what you gain may not be as satisfying as what comes naturally when you’re not driven by material desires and can simply be yourself.
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In my very personal experience, only about one in twenty papas—5%—give gifts or cash worth several hundred thousand yen at Christmas. It’s completely normal for them to give nothing at all. So I don’t think you need to feel too discouraged. But if you’re longing for that glamorous lifestyle, why not really commit to meeting that kind of papa and give it your best shot? Polish your looks and personality, listen carefully to people, stay genuine and sexy, and look for papas in places where you can effectively showcase your strengths. I think you’ll find one easily. For example, my image was basically that of a refined-looking, slightly airheaded, sexy, intellectual woman—and that was really the only angle I could compete on. So instead of trying to find papas at lounges in Nishiazabu, where being outgoing and fun is valued, I made dating clubs my main focus. I ended up having some wonderful encounters, so I’m confident I made the right choice. Still, I sometimes wonder whether I could have marketed myself differently if I’d gone all in on cosmetic surgery to get the trendy hostess look and paid for breast augmentation. I even wonder what my life would have been like working every day at a Roppongi hostess club. That said, there would have been different risks, and I’m not sure I would have met my current generous papa or become this close to him. So I’m also glad I didn’t choose that path. In the end, you just have to find what suits you best.
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