Tips Jul 26, 2023 05:08

Just like the income pyramid, allowances follow a similar pattern. Of course, I imagine a 5 is more common at dating clubs.

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But looking at men as a whole, 3 is more common. In fact, I think most men can only manage a 3 at best. It’s proportional to their income. After meeting various men, I’ve been wondering: if I can’t do sex work and want to save money, is meeting men for a 3 the most efficient approach? Unless I happen to meet an exceptionally generous papa (a male supporter) who also spends a lot on me, is this ultimately the only way to maximize my savings?
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“Since I can’t do sex work and want to save money, would meeting men for 30,000 yen each be the most efficient option?” Um… it depends on the person, so it’s hard to say, but I’ve honestly never met anyone for 30,000 yen. I’ve never even been offered 30,000 yen. So, imagining your situation, I’d say there may be something lacking either in your “strategy” for papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) or in your looks. Because of that, you may be getting exploited by papas offering only 30,000 yen. To put it bluntly, you come across as kind of foolish. If you don’t like the situation, you’ll have to make an effort to change it. Why not look into options besides papa-katsu and first consider ways to earn money without relying on sex?
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Thank you for your question. I couldn’t help but laugh at: “A word problem from an elementary school math textbook?” Given how careless the recent questions have been, I was starting to think there was no point in answering anymore—that this place would become a collection of random scribbles, a gathering spot for people who simply enjoy doodling. But that comeback was absolutely brilliant. Speaking of problems, my boss told me to check out Quora, so I went there, only to find that it was a forum you couldn’t view without registering. I reluctantly signed up, and then started receiving emails every day… I thought, “I hate forums like this. I don’t even want to look at it,” but then I came across a topic along the lines of: “Prove that pi is greater than 3.05”—a famous University of Tokyo entrance-exam problem. I thought, “Hmm… I’m pretty sure pi was calculated using regular polygons, but how would you prove this?” Then I found an explanation saying that if you knew Archimedes had started with a regular hexagon and doubled the number of sides—using regular 12-, 24-, 48-, 96-, and 192-gons—you could prove it easily with a regular dodecagon. There were even more discussions about proving it with a regular octagon, and it turned out to be a surprisingly interesting topic. It made me wonder whether that forum was actually worthwhile after all, since I ended up reading it anyway. But when I considered that I could find more useful information by searching for the same subject myself than by reading the answers there, I also felt that the forum itself wasn’t anything special. As for pi, considering that it took about 1,700 years to get from the value of 3.1 in ancient Babylon and ancient Egypt around 2000 BC to Archimedes obtaining 3.14 around 300 BC, it must have been quite a challenging process. Using a regular hexagon: 3 < π < 2√3 Using a regular 96-gon: 3.1410… < π < 3.1427… So they had managed to establish pi to two decimal places, though of course the digits continue on and on. Anyway, back to the main question about wanting to maximize your savings. Generally speaking, people might suggest things like: “Go to a good university, join a good company, and get promoted.” “Become a lawyer or a doctor.” “Start a business and grow the company.” “Invest.” But if all you can think about is the adult-entertainment industry and papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), then your world is far too narrow. And because the person asking this question can only see that narrow world, all she can imagine is an allowance of 30,000 yen or so. But on Universe, there are plenty of women who regularly receive over 100,000 yen. Some of them even get flooded with offers after being blacklisted, so I suppose that’s only natural. If you broaden your horizons and explore more of the world, you’ll probably find all kinds of ways to earn money. So rather than simply meeting men, being intimate, and receiving money, try having various conversations with them. You may discover worlds you never knew existed.
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Outside of dating clubs, I think most offers are either 0, 1.5, or 2. So rather than trying to get a man to offer you the absolute maximum of 3, depending on the situation, accepting 2 or 1.5 might actually be more efficient.
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It was posted on the National Tax Agency’s website, but the average annual salary per employee who worked throughout the year was ¥4.61 million. By gender, it was ¥5.67 million for men and ¥2.8 million for women. The breakdown by annual income is here: https://www.nta.go.jp/publication/statistics/kokuzeicho/shinkoku2017/pdf/02_shotokukaikyu.pdf So, as you said, I think it’s tough. There are people who receive ¥30,000 for having dinner for two hours, or ¥100,000 without an adult relationship (intimate). But the reality is that even with an adult relationship, some only receive ¥30,000. I think it’s about accepting reality and figuring out how to make an effort. papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) isn’t everything.
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It might be more accurate to say disposable income rather than annual income, but I think it’s generally proportional to annual income, so that sounds about right. I wouldn’t focus too much on finding a generous (well-paying) papa (a male supporter). What matters most is whether you enjoy seeing him and whether the relationship benefits you. I wouldn’t recommend going after people indiscriminately just because the allowance is too low, either.
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Good morning. I laughed this morning when I saw Marika’s answer. I also thought it might be a wording issue… If you’re only getting offers of 3 from men, then you may have to make do with that. If you turn down 3 while dreaming of 5 or 10, you won’t make a single yen. How about reconsidering the idea of making money through papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)? Older men who are much older than you really are kind of gross, though, aren’t they?
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If you keep seeing someone you dislike and it starts affecting your mental health, you may end up unable to continue and back at zero. It’s better to meet only people who don’t stress you out and take things at your own pace.
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Elementary School Math Word Problem? Marika Sorry, I really should have tried harder to see things from the questioner’s perspective. I’d fail the test. If you refuse to date someone because 30,000 yen isn’t enough, you get zero. But even 30,000 yen is something to be grateful for. If you’re in your early 20s and earning just over 200,000 yen a month at an ordinary job, dating twice a week would add up to about the same amount in a month. If you’re dreaming of 1 million yen a month and refuse to date anyone for 30,000 yen, then just rule out the 30,000-yen people and meet those offering 50,000 yen or more. But in the end, it all depends on how many such people there are—and on your own appeal.
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