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Jul 26, 2023 01:22
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I had always assumed that papas paid these costs out of their own pockets. He’s a company executive, but I heard that he receives a substantial pension, so…
The other day, after we had dinner, I said:
“Thank you for the meal. You always treat me, so would it be okay if I treated you for once?”
He replied:
“Don’t worry about it. I can put it down as a company expense.”
I’m also an office worker, and I’ve sometimes gotten receipts from restaurants and claimed expenses for things like business meetings with Company ●● combined with socializing with clients. But I feel that the expenses arising from my relationship with my papa are different in nature.
Could his company’s finance or audit department conduct an internal investigation later on?
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First, let’s define what counts as an expense. The tax authorities’ interpretation is pretty strict. Then again, when people in general—both men and women—hear “business expense,” some idiots seem to think it’s a magic money tree. What a headache.
As I’ve written before, in my case, I don’t want to spend even a single yen on food and drinks unless it leads to business.
For example, at a client’s request, I recently took him to a sushi restaurant where the chef’s-choice menu costs ¥55,000 per person. This client had already generated an eight-figure profit for my company. The bill came to ¥140,000 for the two of us. But I would never take a girl from Uchu Club there. Why? Because I don’t think the taste justifies the price.
Do you really think squid topped with caviar tastes good? Isn’t that just an excuse to charge more?
Sorry, I lost my composure.
In my case, I would never classify meals with women as business expenses, but accommodation is, unfortunately—or fortunately?—a different story.
Basically, I use hotels booked as business expenses when I’m traveling for work so I can be intimate with a small number of women. Whatever people may think, I am genuinely traveling for business and doing my work. That said, the tax authorities might tell me, “Intimacy in the hotel is for personal use, so you need to apportion the cost.” The only excuse I can think of is, “It hardly ever happens.”
Other
Some papas cover dining and hotel expenses as business expenses, but they obviously can’t claim the allowance as an expense too.
That’s why I think there are quite a few papas who skimp on the allowance while splurging on hotels and meals.
If you find that unacceptable, why not report them to the tax office or the National Tax Agency?
Other
Basically, no. But if he did get involved, that papa is an idiot. That’s all there is to it.
Other
I don’t really worry about it.
Maybe one of my important roles is to give the company president energy through the company he runs. If it helps him feel revitalized and brings more profits to the business, I don’t see how that’s a bad thing.
Maybe I’m just rationalizing.
But I am an ageman—a woman who brings good fortune to the men in her life.
Marika
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Age: 50s
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I’m Shiro Usagi, one of the site’s newer answerers.
Of course, he can reimburse the expenses through the company. Unless he went on some extravagant spending spree, it probably won’t raise any red flags in an internal audit or tax inspection. I don’t think it can be traced back to him, so you probably don’t need to worry about that.
More importantly, were you shocked because you thought your papa (a male supporter) had personally treated you, only to find out that he hadn’t paid out of his own pocket and had charged it as a company expense?
If so, I can understand why you’d feel unsettled, especially since you were looking forward to treating him in return.
Strictly speaking, since it causes a loss to the company, it would constitute embezzlement in the course of business.
I pay for my dates’ taxi fares and meals myself. I could expense them, but I want to treat them personally. So even when I’m asked at checkout, “Would you like a receipt?” I decline and say, “No, thank you.”
Other
If it’s a large company, putting it down as a business expense can be advantageous, so some people do that. I’ve even seen sales executives expense their soapland visits. If you think something seems suspicious and look up the name on the receipt, you’ll know immediately.
But these people often search for such establishments on their own work computers and don’t even know how to close their browsers, so the taskbar ends up packed with soapland information sites. Sometimes an innocent young office worker discovers this while cleaning up, gets so shocked that she quits—and that loss ends up being much greater. There are also cases where they openly commit sexual harassment or brag that they’ve won over the beautiful women in the company (I actually checked with one woman a guy claimed to have won over, and he hadn’t—lol). There are so many other issues to deal with that the expense claims get pushed down the list.
Since they bring in tons of business, there’s also part of me that thinks, “If they’re happy working and making money, who cares about the cost of a soapland visit?” (lol)
At a somewhat smaller company, the owner-president often operates on the assumption that all company assets are basically his anyway. In that case, expensing something only saves him the tax—roughly one-third. It’s still a benefit, but it’s very different from making someone else pay the whole amount, so I imagine it feels less exciting.
That papa (a male supporter) might be an executive at a large company. Or perhaps he isn’t receiving executive compensation—which would allow him to collect a pension—so expensing it would save him the full amount. And since the company where he’s an executive pays him nothing, they might be happy to cover something as minor as an expense claim.
Either way, isn’t this lucky? Time to activate the asking-for-more engine!! This is the moment papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) becomes “papa-win” (lol).
Taro
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By the age of 50, wouldn’t it occur to you that some people are like that, while others aren’t?
Or perhaps, to avoid making the other person feel uncomfortable, they might even lie and say they’ll put it down as a business expense.
If that possibility never crossed your mind, I have to wonder how absentmindedly you’ve gone through life all this time.
Personally, I also run a privately owned company, so I don’t have to worry about an audit over taxi fares or restaurant expenses. However, I keep company and personal finances separate, so I don’t claim them as business expenses.
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Ideally, it should be with a woman who’s willing to pay her own way to meet.
I don’t think investigations happen very often.