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Jul 25, 2023 07:41
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◆ the murder case in Susukino, Sapporo, where a headless body was found, and
◆ the woman who drugged children and defrauded them of insurance money
may have been somewhat like compensated dating.
It may be different from papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), but either way, it made me realize that anyone involved in papa-katsu needs to be prepared for all kinds of situations.
My understanding is that in papa-katsu, a woman who needs financial help spends time with a man over a meal or in an adult relationship (intimate) in return, while the man provides financial support because someone important to him is in trouble and needs his help.
Of course, it’s not all unpleasant—there are probably enjoyable moments too—but it reminded me once again that affection and trust are extremely important in any relationship.
And I feel that being killed is the saddest and most heartbreaking way for someone to lose their life.
What do you all think?
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First of all, it’s Shibusawa, not Shibuya. If you search the name plus “mistress,” you’ll only get Shibusawa, even if you search for Shibuya. On the other hand, searching for Shibuya brings up a scholar on Wikipedia—talk about a completely false accusation. It’s especially sad since he’s still alive (71 years old). If he really had been secretly running a dating club, he might be panicking right now, thinking, “How did they find out???” and possibly shortening his own lifespan.
Also, neither of the two cases mentioned involved compensated dating. And compensated dating and dating clubs aren’t the same thing in the first place. There are so many things wrong with that argument.
Apparently, in around 70% of murder cases, the perpetrator is someone the victim knew. It’s not usually some random crime by a stranger. Murderous intent takes quite a lot of energy to develop, and it probably arises from a buildup of various feelings toward someone the person knows well, rather than toward a complete stranger. In that sense, perhaps we should be more careful even with people close to us.
More broadly speaking, most living creatures on Earth die by being killed—mosquitoes, cicadas, sparrows, pigeons, and so on. Only people living in civilized countries can afford to go through life so carefree.
In that sense, I think you should be more grateful for the fortunate circumstances you find yourself in.
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To some extent, it really comes down to whether you can trust the other person.
Personally, that’s why meeting people through apps feels a little scary to me.
These days, especially among younger people, meeting through dating apps has become increasingly common.
That’s precisely why I think there’s a lot of reassurance in knowing that the intermediary has properly screened and interviewed everyone.
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Thank you for your question!
My heart goes out to everyone affected by this tragic incident. Like the person asking this question, I imagine it must feel utterly devastating to be killed by someone you thought was your papa (a male supporter).
Or to be deceived by a woman you thought was your girlfriend.
I think we should bring back the system of keeping mistresses. Like Eiichi Shibusawa, a man could formally guarantee a woman’s position as his mistress and continue supporting her into old age. Women could keep male lovers, too.
And even after the mistress—or the lover—became a grandfather or grandmother, their children would be properly supported through university as well.
That was what being a mistress or kept lover meant.
Compared with that, the level of modern papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) and compensated dating is pretty low. Going to a hotel with some unfamiliar older man for ¥20,000—how casual.
Still, I suppose it’s one of the realities of modern life, so if the people involved accept the thrill that they might be killed, then so be it.
That said, I don’t like discussing such a weighty subject as being a mistress in the same category.
Then again, some people, like Osamu Dazai, committed suicide by drowning soon after meeting someone, so perhaps things really haven’t changed that much, past or present.
During the Edo and Sengoku periods, people who happened to cross paths could be cut down and killed on a samurai’s whim. Compared with that, a murder in a locked love hotel is almost like worrying that your own farts are accelerating global warming.
Just my personal opinion.
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I don’t feel like it’s quite the same as compensated dating.
As an aside, I was a little shocked to see that the 29-year-old female suspect in Susukino had written things like “My hobbies are Gothic Lolita and punk” and “Favorite: h.NAOTO” in her yearbook—almost exactly like me in my second year of middle school.
Please stop giving h.NAOTO clothes a bad image when they’re so cute.
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Regarding the case of drugging a child to defraud an insurance company, I couldn’t help thinking that if she’d met a good papa (a male supporter) through a dating club, she wouldn’t have had to do something like that.
A good papa would make time to meet her considerately, even if she had a child.
This doesn’t really answer the question, but neither of those situations struck me as papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) in the first place.
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I’m Shiro Usagi, a new answer contributor.
There are all kinds of ways for men and women to meet—social media, dating apps, dating services, street dating, and so on. But Universe Club is very different in that members submit identification and business cards, so their identities are verified.
The club also interviews applicants to get a sense of their character, and anyone who raises even the slightest concern won’t be accepted as a member. Because of that, I believe the risk of anything leading to a crime is much lower.
The club trusts us enough to make us members. And since they introduce us to people they themselves have vetted and trust, we can trust our partners as well.
I treat them with affection, and they return that affection. I see it as a gathering of gentlemen and ladies like that, so I have no interest in meeting people anywhere other than Universe Club.
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Whether it’s between two men or two women, the key is not causing problems.
I think relationships between men and women can also stay trouble-free as long as both people are comfortable with the arrangement. When one person gets too emotionally invested or has overly high expectations, misunderstandings and disagreements tend to arise.
To prevent problems, I think it’s important not to expect too much from each other.
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I thought this was supposed to be an anonymous Q&A box, not a place to air your opinions.