Why are dating-club dates dinner followed by a room, rather than coffee followed by a room?

I think it’s because many women want to dine with a wealthy man at restaurants they normally couldn’t afford, spend time together as adults at a beautiful hotel, and receive an allowance. With app- or web-based papa-katsu, it’s probably more often just tea followed by going to a room. Isn’t papa-katsu here simply a higher-end version of web-based papa-katsu? Women tend to judge how much value a man places on them by the places he takes them. We’re the papas here who fulfill that expectation.

Can you really figure out someone’s income, personality, and quirks in just 30 minutes? You may know who they are, but what would you do if they turned out to be strange? Even after a two-hour meal, there are still things you can’t know about someone. Besides, if you start with a meal, wouldn’t it be wonderful to enjoy food at places you normally rarely get to visit? To those who think it’s better to start with just tea: you’d probably make more money working in the adult entertainment industry. You’d get paid almost every time you showed up, right? I need to feel fulfilled both emotionally and physically. I’d also like to travel and have fun together. For that, a meal lasting around two hours is necessary. It’s not just about the money…

The questioner may simply be looking for compensated dating, so they might think tea is enough. But this is the kind of question that makes you wonder whether someone will eventually suggest drinking something from a vending machine together on the street. I’m sure many women would not want to register with a dating club like that. For starters, the question says “women,” but it makes me wonder whether the person asking is really a woman at all. More men tend to think tea is enough, while more women tend to prefer a meal. That said, just as not every man prefers tea, women have different opinions too. Still, perhaps having a meal makes it easier for women to feel comfortable registering. From the perspective of maintaining one’s figure, maybe a meal isn’t ideal. But if you consider that Universe, which has the highest number of female members, chose “dining,” doesn’t that suggest it was the right choice? I don’t know about other dating clubs, but if there were one saying that tea alone was sufficient, it might appeal to experienced women. However, women registering for the first time would probably think, “Maybe I shouldn’t register after all. Their purpose seems different from mine.” People who act solely on their own desires may find this strange, but it seems that these little details can make a big difference in whether a service grows or not. > Why is it automatically assumed to be a meal followed by a date in a private room? No one said that the meal has to be followed by a date in a private room. The fact that you misunderstood it that way also makes your thinking seem rather male-oriented. It’s: A meal + free-form dating. Universe arranges the meal, but it doesn’t decide what happens afterward. > Even if you have a meal, you’re thinking about what comes afterward between consenting adults— You’re someone who thinks only about adult relationships and dates in private rooms, aren’t you? If you’re looking for compensated dating, you might be better off going somewhere else.

I think that’s perfectly fine for people who are looking for a sex partner. But for men and women who want companionship or to enjoy spending time together without sex being the main focus, that’s not really an option. You can also go to a hotel before eating or drinking so you don’t get too full, then take your time enjoying a meal or drinks afterward.

Universe Club really pushes the dining option. On top of that, they basically expect you to spend two hours having a meal, right? When making an offer, there’s even a checkbox saying, “Please come hungry.” So I sometimes wonder whether the women are expecting a full-course meal, which makes me feel like I have to be pretty careful. With other dating clubs, there aren’t any guidelines, so I usually start with coffee or tea. If we hit it off and feel like talking more, we can decide together with the woman whether to have a meal, go straight to a private room, or whatever feels right. There are also quite a few women who clearly say they don’t want a meal on the first meeting—they’d rather just get straight to it. Even those women are perfectly happy to go out for dinner and enjoy themselves from the second meeting onward. The issue is the first meeting. You can tell whether you click after talking for five or ten minutes, so I think it’s better for both people to move on quickly instead of wasting time on someone they’re not compatible with. That way, everyone’s happier. But Universe is different. That’s the club’s policy, so as members, we just have to plan around it. From the man’s perspective, there are times when a woman looks quite different from her profile photos and you immediately think, “This isn’t what I expected.” Or she may act as though you’ve really bonded just because you had dinner together, while giving you the impression that she’ll probably be completely passive when it comes to intimacy. In those situations, I feel a little awkward（笑） On the women’s side, quite a few seem concerned about their stomach showing after eating. Once you’ve met a few times, you can joke about it, but especially at the first meeting, many women do seem to worry about it. So having a two-hour meal as a prerequisite may be a difficult issue for C/D types. Taro

I feel the same way, but there are apparently men who selfishly insist that making you keep up a casual chat over LINE counts as “pseudo-romance.” So I’m sure plenty of them also think that keeping you at a French-course dinner for two and a half hours somehow proves they’re gentlemen and not sex-obsessed—that it gives them a free pass. Which one of them is actually forcing their desires on the other person without considering their feelings? That said, regarding the whole dinner issue, I believe Univa itself was supposedly operating on the premise that it was “a business that arranges dinner dates.” So while I think there was a problem with how it was set up in the first place, I guess that was unavoidable if they wanted to avoid being charged with brokering prostitution under the Anti-Prostitution Act.

People often call it “dinner” for convenience, but I think tea or coffee is fine too. In fact, if we’re meeting sometime between 2 and 4 p.m., I usually just have tea at a café. I also think it’s a misconception that men care less about the meal itself and more about having an adult relationship (intimate) afterward. At least for me, I only want to have sex with women I’ve found interesting through our conversation over a meal or tea. I assumed that both men and women use the time over dinner or tea to decide whether they’re interested in that kind of relationship with the other person—or would be comfortable with it. So I think both the meal or tea and the adult relationship (intimate) are important.