My papa says he sets the allowance for all the women he sees through the same universe at:
- Adult relationship (intimate): ¥30,000
- Dinner only (no intimacy): ¥15,000
- Hotel costs: ¥5,000
- Total: ¥50,000
He told me that no one pays more than that, and even said something like, “Is there really anyone who would pay more?” I think he’s a Platinum member. I’m in the Kansai area.
I’ve met quite a few Platinum-member men who set the allowance at ¥30,000 for a fixed arrangement, and my friends have similar experiences.
But after reading everyone else’s questions, I hardly ever see anyone mentioning ¥30,000. Are there really just very few people offering that amount, or do people simply choose not to say?
Also, although the frequency is low—once or twice a month—I’ve had someone continue for over five years since I was 18. I also have someone I’ve been seeing once or twice a month for three or four years. So I don’t think it’s because they don’t like me or we’re incompatible.
Still, doing papa-katsu for that amount alone isn’t really worthwhile, so I feel like I have no choice but to increase the number of papas I see.
How often and how much allowance do you all provide to one woman each month?
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Since there’s a going rate, I guess it really varies.
The papas probably explain it that way because they don’t want to pay more than they already are.
The street-based girls around Toyoko are getting 15,000–20,000 yen, and papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) has become easier to do through apps. With all the matching apps out there, the competition is probably fiercer than before.
You need to decide for yourself the minimum amount you’re willing to accept and calmly figure out what your fair value is—the point at which you can find a papa on those terms. It seems like all you can do is set your own rate without pricing yourself too low or too high.
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Some people are probably working with a 3.
Magazines for adult men and evening-paper features on papa-katsu mistress arrangements often mention relationships involving considerably less money—on a pay-per-meeting basis, even less than 3.
I believe these arrangements can last even with a low allowance if there are other aspects that make them satisfying.
Not everyone is doing papa-katsu with a total budget of 5.
If you’re unhappy, just tell new men that you’d like 5, and once more men agree, you can simply drop the ones offering 3.
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Although the frequency is low—once or twice a month—we’ve been seeing each other for over five years, ever since she was 18. I also have someone I’ve been seeing once or twice a month for three or four years.
So I don’t think it means they don’t like me or that we aren’t compatible.
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From a man’s perspective, you’re clearly compatible and she’s one of his favorites.
You should treat her well.
In my case, I’ve only been seeing one woman. For the past five years, we’ve communicated regularly—basically once a day—had two dates a month, and although I pay her on a pay-per-meeting basis, I arrange it so the total comes to a fixed monthly amount.
As for the support I give her, she hasn’t said a word about money lately—since around the three-year mark. I support her generously enough that she has no need to bring it up.
She’s my favorite: someone I can trust and feel safe with. I plan to continue until she says she wants to end the relationship.
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The women I see once to three times a month are the kind I’d be fine with things ending at any time. Maybe I enjoy the conversation, or the intimacy is incredible (though I imagine it’s probably just as good with other people too). Each relationship has something I like about it.
With my favorites, we see each other whenever we both feel like it—around once to three times a week—and the relationship feels so comfortable and natural that it goes beyond simply being convenient.
Being able to see multiple papa (male supporters) is certainly a wonderful talent, but it’s only natural that having to coordinate schedules and so on can make someone seem less appealing.
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Does “¥5,000 for the hotel” mean some run-down love hotel or a business hotel? I feel like hotels in that price range are something you mainly see in rural areas—or perhaps it’s a Kansai thing.
Personally, I only use hotels like that when I’m staying somewhere by myself.
Some people don’t spend ¥15,000 on a meal, so maybe that’s simply the kind of mindset that person and the people around them have. Personally, I’ve sometimes gone to a ramen shop and spent less than ¥3,000 for two people, while other times I’ve spent ¥30,000–¥40,000 on yakiniku.
I’ve also heard women say that the person they met before gave them “3,” and I’m sure there are men who stick to “3” as well. I think it’s just that there happen to be a lot of men who actively answer questions and give “5.”
How often I meet women depends on the person—anywhere from zero to six times a month. With A, once a month is normally our pace, but sometimes it ends up being zero for no particular reason, while other times she wants money and we meet six times in a concentrated period.
On the other hand, some women arrange things neatly at once or twice a month and reserve time in my schedule in advance.
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