Tips
Jun 7, 2023 09:19
This content is machine-translated.
I did receive quite a few offers, but many of the men only wanted a one-time arrangement. One man told me, “I get the impression that Type C women have an adult relationship with anyone, so I basically only consider it a one-time thing. If I were looking for an ongoing relationship, I’d choose Type B.”
Some respondents also said that Type B was better, so I regret not registering as Type B after all. I’ve been told that even if I change to Type B now, the change history will appear on my profile, making it pointless.
My questions are: Do staff members steer women toward choosing Type C or D whenever possible?
Also, is there anything I can do at this point?
5 answers
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
There seem to be quite a few misunderstandings here.
“C or D gets more offers.”
→ That’s true.
If you want more offers, C might be the better choice. But it isn’t forced on you, and you can change it right away.
“People who make offers to C or D are mostly looking for one-time arrangements.”
→ That isn’t true.
It’s because the papa doesn’t feel motivated to meet again when there’s something lacking in the adult relationship (intimate), or when it doesn’t feel worth the allowance.
From the papa’s side, it’s also a hassle to keep paying the club’s introduction fee every time just to make repeated offers. There may be a very small number of wealthy men who want lots of one-time arrangements, but those men would probably just go to a sex service instead.
If almost none of the papas who offered to meet you want a second date, you need to realize that your adult relationship (intimate) may simply not be appealing enough. Otherwise, you’ll just keep repeating the same pattern.
As a trial, you could switch to B, indicate that you’re open to an adult relationship (intimate), and see whether an ongoing arrangement develops.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
> Are the staff trying to steer women toward C or D whenever possible?
There would be no benefit to doing that, so no, they aren’t steering anyone.
For one thing, virtually all the staff know that B and C receive roughly the same number of offers, so there’s no point in steering someone from B to C. And if anything, D receives fewer offers, so what would be the point of steering someone toward D?
That’s how I see it.
Also, male members are more likely to make offers to the same woman again rather than only meeting her once. So if the staff lied here and that resulted in the company losing future offers, it would actually be a disadvantage for the company.
Besides, most staff genuinely want members to feel that they had a good experience. I’ve never seen a staff member who wanted to lie about something like that.
The company president’s policy seems to have been properly communicated throughout the organization.
Incidentally, about five years ago, there was a woman who said, “I chose this because a staff member told me this relationship type would be better.”
The company looked into it and found that the staff hadn’t actually steered her in that direction. However, since she had perceived it that way, they changed their policy so that staff would avoid making such comments during interviews, in order to prevent misunderstandings.
So nowadays, even if you ask during the interview, “I’m unsure whether to choose relationship type C or D. Which one is better?” you’ll probably be told:
“Please choose based on whether you want to finish after dinner on the first day.”
And if you ask, “Which one gets more offers?” you may be told:
“Men may complain if women choose based on the number of offers they receive, so please decide which type genuinely applies to you.”
In other words, they may answer in a way that almost seems like they’re brushing you off, leaving many women wondering, “Why are they being like that?”
That’s because even when a staff member is simply trying to help a woman who is having trouble deciding, it could later be interpreted as, “I chose it because the staff told me to.”
I try to observe staff interviews whenever possible—probably more often than the manager of that department—and my impression is that this policy is being followed properly.
After a woman leaves, the staff may discuss things like:
“She selected B, but based on how she spoke, she’s definitely an A. We need to note that in the comments.”
They conduct the interviews quite strictly. So even if they think a woman has selected a different type from what actually suits her, they don’t point it out directly, because they don’t want her to later say that a staff member told her to choose it. Instead, they record the interviewing staff member’s impression in the comments.
That said, when it comes to B versus C, it’s difficult to tell whether someone is being completely honest about their intentions. So the comments tend to focus mainly on the distinction between A and B.
Most inquiries from men are also about whether she is an A—meaning dinner only—or a B—meaning whether she is open to seeing where things go after that. Considering how few complaints there are about why B versus C isn’t specified, it seems that this is what men are primarily concerned about.
> Also, is there anything I can still do at this point?
Regardless of whether there’s already a record of it, if your actual relationship type is B, I’d strongly recommend changing it to B as soon as possible.
> There seem to be many men who only meet someone once.
Some men may offer to meet women with types C or D because they want to meet a variety of women. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean men who offer to C aren’t looking for a long-term relationship.
In other words, some men may offer to C while still hoping to build a long-term relationship.
With that in mind, if things aren’t leading to another meeting, it seems quite likely that you either don’t understand what the men are looking for or don’t have what they’re looking for.
Other
I was told that I wouldn’t receive any offers unless I was rated C or D.
I think the conversation you had with the staff around that point will make it understandable.
As for your class, choose whatever feels right for you. I’ve gone from A to C myself. Your history will remain on record, but ultimately, it’s for your own benefit. And when you change it, you can also write down the reason, so be sure to answer that as well.
I hope you get some good offers.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Based on my experience speaking with more than 10 staff members and three affiliates, here’s my take.
The idea that “you won’t receive any offers unless you’re a C or D” differs from what the staff and affiliates I know understand. So I don’t think staff members are steering every woman toward choosing C or D.
If a staff member or affiliate recommended C or D to you, it was probably because they felt one of those types suited you better.
Having men end things after a single meeting can happen even with type B. Conversely, type C can also lead to a long-term relationship. For example, I’ve been seeing a woman who was type C for three years, while there was also a type B woman I met once and then decided I didn’t want to continue seeing.
Also, the idea that “type C women are assumed to have adult relationships with anyone, so men generally view them as one-time arrangements and choose type B if they want to date someone” is simply that particular man’s opinion.
Personally, if you want to date someone who genuinely doesn’t sleep with just anyone, I don’t think you should look for her through a dating club in the first place. (Laughs)
At this point, rather than blaming your relationship type for things ending after one meeting, I think you should seriously consider why they keep ending that way.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I think it would be better to switch to B1 sooner rather than later.
Men may interpret it as meaning that the C type didn’t work out or that you encountered a bad man. So for men considering the kind of B-type arrangement mentioned in your question, you may actually be more likely to receive offers.
At the same time, you’d probably be able to avoid men who are only looking for a one-time C-type arrangement.
If you’re hoping for a long-term relationship, in your case I think it would be best to switch to B1—or possibly B2—as soon as possible.
With the C type, there probably aren’t many women a man would want to meet a third time. But if there’s a woman he’d want to meet three or four times even with a B-type arrangement and no intimacy, I think it’s easy to imagine which situation is more likely to develop into a long-term relationship.
> I have a question: Do the staff encourage women to choose C or D whenever possible?
To put it simply, men are generally fine with any type, while women have different feelings and preferences depending on the type. So from the man’s perspective alone, it seems natural to think that choosing C if possible would be in the female member’s best interest. And from the staff’s perspective, since they want to bring in offers, it’s even more natural that they would recommend choosing C whenever possible.