I’m thinking of asking my papa to cover the cost of cosmetic surgery as a birthday present.
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From a man’s perspective, would it be a turnoff if I asked for money instead of an actual gift?
He’s already asked me, “What would you like for your birthday?” and I replied, “Thank you! I’ll think about it,” so I haven’t made a specific request yet.
If anyone has advice on how to bring it up, I’d really appreciate it.
I do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) to earn money for cosmetic procedures and other beauty expenses. I’m not materialistic and have no interest in designer brands, so honestly, receiving the equivalent amount in cash would make me a hundred times happier than getting an expensive gift. I feel like most women who do papa-katsu would be happier receiving cash than an actual present, too...
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He asked me to send him my Amazon wish list, so I made one while he guided me through it since I’d never created one before. So sweet…
He also gave me an Amazon gift card, saying, “Your room is way too girly, and I didn’t know what to buy you, so use this to get whatever you like.”
So sweet(´ω｀*)
I don’t think I can ask him to cover my cosmetic surgery costs, though…(｡´-д-)
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If you’ve become very close, I think it’s fine to say that you’d prefer cash. But if someone asks, “What would you like as a present?” replying, “Cash,” feels a little awkward to me.
If you don’t really want anything, I think it’s best to just say so and not receive anything.
If they offer cash themselves, that seems fine too—but asking for it yourself feels a bit questionable to me.
That said, it also depends on the relationship you have with them.
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Men who do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) generally prefer girls who look naturally cute, so many of them react negatively simply to the idea of cosmetic surgery.
That’s why I think you’re better off not telling your papa (a male supporter).
That said, depending on the relationship, it may be okay.
Once, a papa paid for a course of cosmetic dermatology treatments for me—not surgery that changed my face, but skincare treatments. At the time, I was seriously struggling with bad skin, so he offered to cover it out of kindness.
That said, I think our relationship was pretty twisted too.
Back then, I was extremely dominant and he was extremely submissive. He liked being the kind of person who would do absolutely anything I told him to, so I think that’s why it worked out.
You should assess the relationship between you and your papa, then push hard—almost brutally—right up to the line of what he’ll tolerate.
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>From a man’s perspective, would you be put off if she asked for money instead of a physical gift?
I used to get asked for specific items more often too, but these days it’s usually cash. I don’t really check whether it’s true, but she’ll generally tell me what she wants to use it for.
Personally, I’d rather she spend it however she likes.
In my case, she casually asks me for small things fairly often, even when it’s not her birthday, which can be a bit much. I should probably firmly say, “I’m going to end this arrangement,” but since I’ve already said I’m not going to, she gets her way from time to time.
Still, being able to see each other safely and comfortably is the most important thing, so I’m fine with it.
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Since you’re being asked what you like, I think it’s fine to just say so. But people have different feelings about cosmetic procedures, so it’s better to test the waters first.
When a woman once told me, “I’m getting VIO hair removal soon,” I jokingly replied, “Aww, I liked your pubic hairstyle.” But if she said, “I want to get breast augmentation♡,” I’d probably just be left speechless…
I used to think that talking about hair removal was taboo when dating a bald man. But maybe you could form a strong bond over the shared belief that “body hair is the root of all evil—we don’t need it!!” Then again, a man who wears a toupee may still be attached to his hair, so that might not work. Still, even if it risked ruining the relationship, I’d kind of want to ask, “I’m thinking about getting hair removal—what do you think?” just to see his reaction（笑）. Actually, I’d want to throw a borderline question at him and see how far I could go. No, honestly, I’d want to push it all the way into forbidden territory and get cut off. Then I could tell my friends, “I got cut off because I talked about hair to a bald guy…” If I were a woman, that is.
I’ve gone off on a tangent and can’t seem to stop, so let me get back to the point. Before making the request, it’s better to test the waters first by saying something like, “What do you think of women who do ●●?”
Also, “I’d rather invest in myself than spend money on brand-name goods” sounds good to people’s ears, so if you explain that properly too, you may score some points and avoid coming out behind even after bringing up something difficult to say.
Taro
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The fact that I’m even thinking about things like this is such a turn-off.
Aaaaaah—but I end up letting it out anyway. The brain is stupid… no, men are…
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The basic rule is to choose gifts the other person will genuinely enjoy.
If you’ve mentioned in your everyday conversations that you do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) to invest in your beauty, your papa (a male supporter) will be happy to give you money as a gift.
Being able to watch the PJ he’s seeing become more and more beautiful up close is one of a papa’s privileges. Personally, I’d be thrilled.
That said, some papas give gifts for their own satisfaction rather than to make their partner happy, while others have negative feelings about cosmetic surgery.
I think it’s important to figure out which type he is.
It’s me.
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A woman’s beauty spending is the female equivalent of a man going to brothels.
You can spend your own money however you want, but if a guy said, “I work so I can spend money on sex workers!” wouldn’t you think, “What an idiot”? It’s the same thing.
Some men, like Seattle, don’t care, but there are also men like me who are instantly turned off and cut ties. So don’t go out of your way to say that.
In fact, I’ve cut ties with several women over it in the past. They probably don’t realize why, since I deleted the messages without reading them, but it was because I heard them say during our conversations, “I use the money I receive for cosmetic surgery.”
I’m not saying you shouldn’t get cosmetic surgery. Just don’t talk about that kind of desire—it’s vulgar. Do it quietly behind the scenes.
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That’s how I feel about it, so I give all my gifts in cash—including Christmas gifts.
Whether it’s money toward cosmetic procedures or cash, I’m fine with either as long as it makes her equally happy.
P.S.
I’ve paid for double-eyelid procedures, hair removal, dental work, and permanent makeup before. Since the results were clearly better, I was very satisfied.
If it’s excessive plastic surgery, though, I’d be against it—it depends on whether I’m satisfied with the outcome.
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