I was discussing the next date with a woman in her twenties whom I regularly see for an adult relationship (intimate) on a pay-per-meeting basis for 70,000 yen, and she told me, “Starting next time, I’d like you to make it 80,000 yen per meeting.”

If you don’t like him, end it. If you do, continue even for 80,000 yen. That said, if he’s negotiating for a higher allowance, he clearly doesn’t respect you, so I think you’re better off cutting ties.

I took a day trip to Gifu. The woman who seemed to have suggested it was clearly having a great time. If you ever organize a private event, please invite me. I’d love to tip generously. The final performer was Asagi Ageha, and you couldn’t keep doing it for 20 years if you hated it. Her abs were incredible. She’s even appeared in adult videos featuring her abs. If the woman is a good one, the questioner should happily give her 8. Don’t make snide comments or complain that it’s expensive—just casually say, “Starting today, it’s 8,” and keep things going. If the intimacy isn’t great or you’ve gotten bored, don’t leave any parting jab. Just thank her sincerely for everything and end things on good terms. The most unpleasant thing of all is when an old guy sulks. Either way, keep it classy.

I’d say number ①. To begin with, I don’t see how asking, “What would you all do?” is relevant to whether I personally choose to continue seeing her. If everyone said she was wonderful and that I should see her more often, would you actually do that? You’ll probably act regardless of what people here say. And besides, framing it as a choice between cutting her off and keeping her around is strange to begin with. Maybe she’s actually such an amazing woman that you’d normally be willing to pay 10 for her. Or maybe, since the owner declared that this is just entertainment, you’re thinking, “I’ll just write something appropriate for the entertainment value.” But even if the owner, who normally doesn’t answer questions, calls it entertainment, that only applies to questions he himself has answered. If people are answering because they genuinely want to help someone who’s having a hard time, then regardless of what the owner says, that’s no longer entertainment. So when someone posts a question this pointless, I consider whether it falls under the category of posts that can be hidden without mercy. That said, I did come to understand the complaint that it feels unfair to have your answer hidden after taking the time to respond, so I’ve become more reluctant to hide things. Please enjoy the correspondingly harsh replies instead. Oh, look at that—it’s become entertainment after all. Anyway, questioner, you’re not cut out for dating clubs. You’re the typical “me, me, me” kind of person who wants to be the big shot, so I think you’d be better off somewhere like an adult entertainment venue or a hostess club, where people will fawn over you. There’s no denying that the man paying the money has the stronger position in a dating club. But don’t forget that the woman is always in a position to say goodbye. You think you cut her off, but you’re the one who’s been cut off.

Women understand that negotiating for a higher allowance will basically result in saying goodbye. So I think she sees you as someone she’d be fine with losing—or someone she wouldn’t really mind either way. If it were me, I might hear you out once. But since all the other women receive the same allowance, unless you can offer something that makes her feel particularly valued compared with them, I feel like she’ll probably say goodbye.

I think even women in their 20s would have sex without an allowance, as long as the age gap is no more than around 30 years. But when it comes to women, what Mac-san wrote about not needing men or sex probably does apply. So the question is: how much do you provide the things women need besides sex? Are you considerate and thoughtful toward them? To women, sex is nowhere near as important as it is to men—probably not even one-hundredth as important. Since they can live without it in the first place, they don’t want to do something they don’t particularly want to do, especially with someone they dislike. They’ll think, “No. Absolutely not.” But if everything besides sex is sufficiently fulfilled, both people start wanting to satisfy each other, deepen their connection, and feel a sense of unity. I think intimacy will happen naturally as a result. If you don’t build that kind of relationship before things progress with a woman in her 20s, it can turn into a strange arrangement where you’re putting up with things while worrying about how much allowance to pay. The person asking the question is also spending their valuable 30s, just like a young woman in her 20s. So paying an allowance of 70,000 yen at that age feels like a waste of life… I feel that women do papa-katsu before they start losing their appeal, while men do it after they’ve already passed their prime. A papa can do it at any age—even after he’s past his prime. It’s never too late, so don’t waste the meaningful years of your 30s and 40s. As for my answer: I think you should ask a little more about the circumstances and find out why things reached the point where the allowance had to be changed. Going forward, it might be helpful to ask various questions as a learning experience, so that in situations like this, the other person feels able to come to you for advice in a different way. Before bluntly discussing the amount, there may be some difficult circumstances—or something you can do to help—that you haven’t considered…

I mean, to begin with, I don’t think expressions like “cutting her off” or “not cutting her off” are very appropriate. The questioner chose to have an allowance-based relationship with this person, so no matter how rudely she treated him, shouldn’t he think, “I’m the one at fault for choosing her”? I also feel that the questioner is at fault for not choosing a woman he could actually come to like. If she were someone he liked, I don’t think he’d worry about 10,000 yen or so. Let me be perfectly clear: basically, those women don’t want to sleep with us old guys! lol It’s not really about the amount of money. Deep down, they don’t want to. There’s no such thing as it being “worth it.” All there is is compromise. Once in a blue moon, some chemistry happens—but only very rarely. She’s trying to find a point of compromise for just 10,000 yen, even though it isn’t worth it for her, right? If you look at it that way, she actually seems like a very good person. Don’t you think? lol P.S. I guess it’s a difference of opinion, lol. There are men, sure. Or rather, if it’s a man she likes, then it’s necessary. But being held by some old guy she doesn’t even like? Basically, she doesn’t want that, right? lol All you papa-katsu women, put your hand on your heart and ask yourselves how you really feel. You don’t want it, do you? lol I think that, when you’re acting reluctantly in a situation involving compromise, it’s exhausting, so you might as well try to enjoy it if possible. That’s about the extent of it. No matter what the allowance is, it’s still a compromise. But if we get hung up on that, it’s just sad, so I think what matters is that we’re able to genuinely like the women we’re seeing. P.S. You’re right, of course. My opinion is out of place here, and I’m aware of that. But I also didn’t want to give some overly careful, wishy-washy answer, lol. Sorry 🙇 P.S. I think strip shows and papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) are different. And this is embarrassing to write, but I don’t think the type of relationship has anything to do with “true love.” Sorry for going on and on, lol 🙇 Anyway, just message me directly on LINE.

②, I think. It doesn’t seem all that serious. I’d cut her off immediately. To be fair, wanting to raise one’s rate is something even a middle-aged owner of a small business like me can easily understand. But my honest reaction is: does any man really think, “I’d be willing to sleep with her for 8, but not for 7”? If you don’t want to, you don’t want to, whether it’s 7 or 8. I know a girl who turned down an offer of 1,000. She said, “It made me realize all over again that if I don’t like someone, no amount of money will make me want to do it with him.” So the person asking the question doesn’t need to put himself down as “a man she can’t be with for 7.” But the fact that he’s worrying about it this way in the first place makes me think that, being in his 30s and still relatively young, he may still be hung up on his youthful ideals. In any case, his perspective is still pretty narrow. P.S. > What’s the difference between me and her other papas? Then how about saying, “I can’t change 7 because it’s my policy, but I’ll meet you twice as often”? P.S. 2 > Basically, those girls don’t want to have sex with us old guys! lol As potashium wrote before, when it comes to reaching orgasm, they only need their own fingers. Basically, they don’t need men themselves—not just old men, but young men too. So what do they need men for? To kill time, for sperm, and for money. Old men and young men aren’t all that different in that regard. The only category that exists is: **Men they don’t want to sleep with.** So whether it’s 0, 5, 7, or 8, I think we’re all basically the same as long as we don’t get categorized as “a man she doesn’t want to sleep with.” If I imagine myself as a woman, that’s how I’d see it. Why don’t Flamme and the person asking the question try imagining themselves as women for a moment? Young or old, you don’t want to do it with someone you dislike. If you don’t dislike him, wouldn’t you eventually think, “Well, I guess it’s okay”? Men have a strike zone, but women only have an “out zone.” That’s just my theory, though. lol P.S. 3 Hmm. As a general rule, I don’t think older men are going to get much attention from young women. They’re simply out of the question. But women who do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) are, by definition, probably people who don’t have that much resistance to it. So if the goal is to admonish older men on sites like Yahoo! Chiebukuro, I think Flamme’s perspective is fine. But in a papa-katsu Q&A forum, doesn’t saying, “Girls don’t really want to sleep with old men!” feel a little out of place? Sure, there are probably some girls who are forcing themselves, but most of them are doing it because they don’t feel particularly resistant to it, right? Rather than a difference of opinion, I feel like it may simply be a matter of context.

Since this is a negotiation for a higher allowance, she’s probably making the request while imagining that the relationship may end. She may have other papas who offer better terms—probably more than one—and is trying to negotiate a raise. Either way, if you don’t increase the allowance, there’s a good chance she’ll stop meeting you. It’s possible she needs money and is asking for more, but if that were the case, she probably wouldn’t ask for just a 10,000-yen increase. She’d likely say she needed a more substantial amount. Isn’t it more reasonable to assume she’s comparing your offer with what other papas are paying? If it were me, I’d at least ask about her circumstances. But I’d probably end things and make an offer to someone else.