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Mar 10, 2023 18:36
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Even 5ch seems to lean more toward app-based papa-katsu, so it feels a little different. I’d like to share the frustrations and uncertainties that come with being a casual participant and figure things out together.
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A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I don’t meet up with the other respondents either, and the women I see are part of the more casual papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) crowd—usually a few women who meet once a month for an allowance of 50,000 yen per meeting.
There are certainly some very hardcore people who are registered with salons or also use other dating clubs, but respondents come from all sorts of backgrounds.
I think we need answers from different types of people, which is why I’m participating as one of the respondents.
That said, I’m now entering my fourth year and have made offers to more than 50 women, so I’ve mostly moved past the trial-and-error stage.
Even so, I’m currently seeing three women, and sometimes I find myself wondering whether it might be okay to part ways with one of them.
Maybe the only way to stop feeling conflicted is to quit papa-katsu altogether.
I’ve heard that some women have LINE groups where they share information about a person to avoid on dating apps.
That’s because there’s a strong need for it.
Given your purpose, though, I don’t feel there’s enough need to create an entire community.
黒崎 蓮(スタッフ)
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Other
My name is Ren Kurosaki from Universe Club’s Osaka branch.
Thank you for your question!
There may be communities like that operating below our staff’s radar, but I’ve never heard of one myself…
We have also heard from male members who would like Universe Club to organize some kind of event or project along those lines.
Sorry I couldn’t be of more help!
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
The other day, a “flag maker” came over to my place and took charge of the hot pot. He’s a great cook.
Our preferences are different, though. I prefer people with a “spec” of 100 or below—not above 100, below.
We’ve gotten to know each other through comments on columns, and eventually I’ve had female columnists join the club and accept offers, so we’ve stayed connected.
So sometimes, we end up being “brothers.”
👨 Male
Universe member
Exchanging information is helpful, but ultimately, I think it comes down to your compatibility with the woman in front of you, as well as your approach to and attitude toward papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
When I first joined, I started out by turning down offers, and I even wondered whether I’d ever meet a woman who would want to see me.
But once the relationship began, I came to appreciate that even with a woman whose age falls somewhere between that of my child and grandchild, we can still get along well and enjoy each other’s company—even though money is involved and it feels a little like bending the rules.
I think the most important thing is to discuss and agree on the details of the relationship with each woman you meet.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
As the other respondents have said, the quickest route is to build your own network.
Thanks to my work as a columnist, I know a lot of male members. I even hosted a hot-pot party recently.
So the shortcut is to write lighthearted columns and connect with male members who relate to them and leave comments.
That said, after meeting so many male members, there’s just one thing I want to say:
“Not a single male member thinks exactly the same way I do or has the same dating style.”
It’s not about whose approach is better or more impressive. I believe there’s comfort in respecting each other’s differences.
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🏅 明け方に低頻度で浮上する回答者です
細く長く続けばいいなあ
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
It’s Fullerene!
I also think the other answerers are really impressive, but I can’t quite get into things like Column Darling. Maybe we’re similar in that respect.
I’m not all that interested in the women other people are seeing, either...
(Of course, I’m sure there’s a big demand for that kind of content!)
I find things written by women more enjoyable to read.
Anyway, if you’re calling it a community, I assume you mean social media.
You might get banned on an FB group or LINE OpenChat, so why not create a new Twitter account instead?
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
> The frustrations of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)
With papa-katsu, you can use the ultimate trump card of offering an allowance—that is, money—to make things work.
So I’d think there’d be no reason for it not to work out… but…
Are there really any frustrations??
“Casual participants” can refer to people whose relationships go smoothly right away after making an offer and continue for a long time. It can also refer to people whose arrangements don’t work out or last very long. Sometimes the former are called “core” participants, while in other cases, people who keep making lots of offers over a long period of time—even though things don’t work out—are called “core” participants…
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
At Universe Club, you can also talk with the staff and exchange information, although what you can do varies by class. So would it be something like:
“They don’t actually do papa-katsu themselves, so I can’t take advice from people like that.”
That said, information does come to the staff, so you may often disagree with them on the finer points. Still, I think exchanging information with the staff can be useful for getting a general sense of things.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Do you actually have enough information to exchange, though? I ask because people who say, “Let’s exchange information,” have never once brought me anything useful(笑)
I think that if you’re genuinely serious about being active in this field, you’ll naturally meet people to exchange information with and build relationships with them.
That said, relationships are ultimately between people, so I think you have to keep experimenting and figuring things out for yourself.
Other
I’m sure there are probably many others who feel the same way, so why not create your own column and build a community where people can leave comments?
I think it would be faster to create one than to search for it.
Just my personal opinion.