Tips Feb 12, 2023 01:37

I’m still new to the club and have been doing this for less than six months.

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I’ve seen a few women so far, and I know this may sound harsh, but aren’t there a lot of women who take life too lightly? I can’t go into specifics, but while it’s wonderful to have dreams and aspirations, many of them seem to act impulsively and just get by in the moment, without much planning or any concrete direction. As a business owner myself, I have a lot I’d like to say. For now, though, I’ve tried to respect boundaries and not get too involved. But do you think I should at least offer some advice? If one of my employees came to me with a consultation like this, I’d probably either quietly cut ties with them or give them a pretty harsh opinion. I also can’t help thinking, “Isn’t it questionable to base your life plans on the allowance you receive from the club in the first place?” But is that just how it is? It would be less stressful if I simply ended things, but the more problematic women are often the ones I find myself worrying about and unable to leave alone. It’s a strange dilemma. Maybe it’s just to be expected when they’re in their 20s or 30s? My sample size is small, and I’m not trying to condemn women as a whole. I’m also wondering whether I’m simply bad at judging people.
👤 Asked by Guest 👨GenderMale 🎂 40s 👑 Universe male member
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フラーレン
🏅 明け方に低頻度で浮上する回答者です
細く長く続けばいいなあ
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
Isn’t the fact that you can run a business precisely because the overall standard out there is so low? If anything, shouldn’t you be thanking everyone?
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🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
They probably won’t listen even if you give them advice. Not all women are like that, so why not make offers to find someone who isn’t, or look for women who are a little older and have more work experience? Some women may take advantage of people, but I’m sure there are others who don’t.
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I try not to get too involved in things by first asking myself, “Who will ultimately be responsible for the consequences?” If the answer is, “This won’t come back on me,” I stay out of it as much as possible. There may be women at the club who are taking life too lightly and rushing into things, but she’s the one who will ultimately have to deal with the consequences. It has nothing to do with your life. The only things you need to consider are whether you want to break things off because you feel uncomfortable, or continue seeing her. If she comes to you with a specific concern, then you can decide whether or not to respond to her request for advice. But if she hasn’t said anything, offering unsolicited opinions feels like getting too involved in someone else’s issue—and probably isn’t a good idea.
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“People are not born above or below one another…”—just some ramblings from a male member. When I joined Universe Club, I made a few personal rules for myself. One of them was: “Always treat every woman as an equal.” Whenever papa-katsu involves an allowance arrangement, the focus inevitably falls on the money men give women, and the amount often becomes a topic of discussion here. But I’ve always felt that we should also shine a little more light on what women provide to men. What I receive from the woman I’m currently seeing goes far beyond intimacy. We exchange daily “thank you” messages, discuss her views on life and death—and her opinions on papa-katsu—go on dates to all kinds of places, enjoy delicious food, and experience things together that wouldn’t be possible alone, simply because they’re more fun as a pair. That’s all possible because she’s my mistress in a truly equal relationship. What do you think? If you clearly define for yourself what kind of papa-katsu you want and what your purpose is, I think the answer will naturally become clear. If your goal is simply an adult relationship based on physical intimacy, then honestly, the woman’s dreams don’t really matter, do they? If you feel good, that’s all you need. But if, like the questioner, you’re the kind of person who can’t help being drawn to—and unable to abandon—women like that, then once you meet someone you truly click with, I feel you could enjoy a wonderful life as a mistress’s partner. Just my two cents, and a little encouragement to keep making offers.
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You might want to try filtering the women you approach a little more by their educational and professional backgrounds. To put it bluntly, I feel like that’s what happens when you keep approaching girls who are cute but seem kind of clueless. Another possibility is that your expectations of women are simply too high. I asked my papa, who’s sitting right next to me, and he said he’s never felt that women are “taking life too lightly” in the first place. My papa is a real old-school Japanese man who seems to view women as people to be protected. For better or worse, he doesn’t expect them to be independent. That may be where he differs from you.
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Is this one of those preachy old guys? It’s your disrespectful-looking eyes that are the problem.
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I think you’re simply choosing the wrong women. That’s the impression I got from what the women the papa had approached told me, at least. Apparently, one woman came to him for advice because she wanted to start a business, but when he offered some recommendations on how she could go about it, she seemed completely distracted and didn’t listen at all. That said, none of the female respondents I’ve gotten to know personally are like that. (To the female respondents I’m friendly with, sorry for bringing you into this ;; I genuinely respect you, though.) Now, I’m going to say this knowing I may make some enemies, but women’s social standing has improved compared with the past. Things have changed so much that it’s practically a different era from when today’s women in their 40s and older were young. Even without papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), women can earn as much as men if they work hard and make their way through life. We live in a time when plenty of women can overcome their circumstances and succeed. Women who worked in the nightlife industry and saved money were also earning it through legitimate work, so I consider them part of the same category. However, papa-katsu may appeal to women who don’t have the courage to work in the adult entertainment industry, but want an easy way to make money as a hobby. Isn’t that why their thinking can seem so naïve? Of course, they can’t say that during an interview, and they certainly won’t tell the male members supporting them, so they dress it up nicely. If they genuinely want to start a business or achieve their dreams, shouldn’t they do it without papa-katsu—take out a loan, start a company, use their heads, and earn money through legitimate means? After all, “the female CEO used to do papa-katsu” would be nothing but a stain on her reputation. And since money is involved, there’s always a possibility that the papa could suddenly change and try to blackmail her. If she can’t even consider those future risks, isn’t she being a little careless? If you can barely afford to live, you shouldn’t have time to spend money on things that don’t benefit you in the long run. You should be using that time to improve your skills. You wouldn’t have time to leisurely eat out and drink tea. So, to begin with, thinking you can make money through papa-katsu is naïve. In the end, I probably look like I’m in the same place as those “losers,” and if someone says there’s no difference, I can’t really argue with them, lol. But even if the result looks the same, they’re completely different things to me. I earn enough to support myself and live freely, and papa-katsu is simply a hobby. When I occasionally wonder what the allowance from my papa has turned into, I realize that quite a lot of it has gone toward gifts for my family or improving my pets’ living environment... Being able to do things for my parents with my own money would be ideal, but I don’t have that kind of financial leeway yet. My parents probably don’t have that many years left, and I can’t do those things on my current income... It made me realize that I’m still not in a position to have a family of my own, lol. To begin with, I like older men—I tend to get butterflies around them—and I know an affair would take a serious emotional toll on me. So when I was looking for a way to pass the time with a little pseudo-romance while keeping my feelings neatly separated by money, papa-katsu was simply what I found. Sometimes I think that after I get promoted a lot, I’d like to ask my papa to take on one major work project for me. The problem is that my company follows a seniority-based system, so it may be difficult unless my papa lives a very long time....... Papa, thank you for always bringing peace and happiness to Pota House. Anyway, I’ve gotten off track. Like the other respondents said, I think you’re just bad at choosing women. That’s simply my personal opinion. Still, even if you can’t choose the women working in the adult entertainment industry, the women who chose papa-katsu as a way to support themselves financially may have thought long and hard before doing it and may be trying their best. You should respect that choice to some extent.
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マックさん
🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
I actually learn more from them than they learn from me. When I was their age, I was incredibly immature, and it’s really sunk in that the reason I’m even somewhat successful now is largely just that I was lucky. To the person asking: have you ever sold your body? I haven’t. Compared with the hardships they’ve faced, everything I’ve gone through doesn’t even compare. I genuinely feel that way. I respect how they’re trying to make their own way in life using everything they have, and even though I can only help a little, I want to be there for them. How should I put it? Through them, I feel like I’m getting a chance to redo a small part of my own life. That’s why their happiness is my happiness. P.S. What bothers me most about this question is that the person asking shows no respect for the lives of these women in papa-katsu—in other words, there’s no sense of regard for them. There are all kinds of lives, but every one of them belongs to the person living it. A healthy society is one where people respect each other’s lives. Interfering isn’t helpful; it’s just being meddlesome. That’s why I wrote that the person asking is “taking life lightly”—they’re the one taking that woman’s life lightly. There are plenty of people who are more successful as business owners than the person asking, right? Wouldn’t it be humiliating to have one of them snort and say, “You’re taking life lightly, aren’t you?” Opinions like “You’re choosing the wrong people” or “Why not filter them by education and work history?” may sound reasonable, but unless the person asking changes their fundamental attitude toward others, I feel it would amount to the same thing. More than anything, I believe everyone is doing their best within their own circumstances and abilities. Even if papa-katsu is their sole occupation, they have their own reasons and choices behind it. That’s why I think we need a basic respect for other people’s lives, along with a healthy degree of indifference—in the best sense of the word. That’s just my personal view, lol.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
You say, “If one of my employees came to me for advice,” but that’s the point—they would have to come to you for advice first. Even in the workplace, intruding into an employee’s private life is harassment. Giving advice when nobody asked for it just makes you a preachy old man. I believe everyone has their own way of navigating life. Imposing your own approach on someone who never asked for it is extremely self-centered and overbearing, don’t you think? If you don’t get along with someone, I think it’s best to quietly keep your distance. You should realize that you’re trying to change the person into someone you want them to be.
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ダイ
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
It may help to think back to when you were young and ask yourself whether you really had that much planning or foresight. Youth comes with energy, so even if you jump in without having everything figured out, things often work out somehow. Graduating from college and starting a job means you’re moving along a set path. Even if you fail, as long as you’re still on that path, it’s rarely anything fatal. It’s only when you start wanting to step off the usual track and do something different—like running your own company—that you need to think carefully and act more deliberately. I think it’s best to approach the relationship with the mindset that you’ll be there to offer the right advice at the right time when she comes to you for it.
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だて◎ゆめ
👨 Male Universe member
I’m with Paper Airplane! Well, this is actually hard for me to say, but I do somewhat understand what you’re feeling. Still, Paper Airplane is right. You and your companion should both be patient with each other, and if something really bothers you, offer a piece of advice or two while continuing to enjoy your arrangement together. They say that little things add up over time. She won’t know unless you tell her, so don’t be too harsh—just gently point out the important things little by little. If she’s willing to listen, I think that, over time, she’ll grow into a lovely young woman.
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紙ひこうき
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
You should remember that club men are able to enjoy these experiences thanks to women like them. It’s important to recognize your own lowly position: you’re not only giving the woman an allowance, but also paying the club a membership fee and introduction fee just for the opportunity to meet her. The questioner’s club activities are possible because these women have made the difficult decision to rely on an allowance and join, fully aware of what that entails. So you should first acknowledge their resolve and courage, then treat them with respect and gratitude. In this world, the person giving the money is actually the one in the weaker position. Instead of looking down on them, you should take a good look at your own lack of judgment when choosing women. Women may have no choice but to play dumb around men who act so condescendingly.
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