I’m a man in my 40s who’s been using a dating club for four years and has met around 50 women. Most of them have been Platinum-level women arranged through the club.
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I only recently discovered this Q&A site and read through some of the older questions. I was surprised to see that quite a few people mentioned an allowance of ¥50,000.
I usually meet women on a pay-per-meeting basis for ¥70,000–¥100,000, so I thought it might be worth negotiating for a lower allowance. I tried offering ¥50,000.
To my surprise, three women in a row turned me down. One of them even looked clearly annoyed and said, “Huh?”
So, after reading this, which of the following is your honest impression?
1. “He must not have much appeal, so they’re trying to overcharge him.”
2. “Of course ¥50,000 usually won’t cut it.”
3. “The fact that he’s asking this kind of question is exactly why he’s no good.”
4. “No, it’s something else entirely—the reason is…”
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If it’s a new offer, you might be able to make it work if the man is attractive. But if you offer 5 to someone who usually gets 7–10, there’s absolutely no way.
Marika
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If she gets a lot of offers, I don’t think an average-looking man in his 40s or 50s could get anywhere with just ¥50,000.
Once she’s used to routinely being offered ¥70,000 or ¥100,000, I doubt she’d go out of her way to meet someone new for ¥50,000.
Maybe it could work with a woman who’s just joined…
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“Having a good eye for picking the right person” is important.
In romantic relationships, it means winning over someone who genuinely likes you. Being able to identify that kind of person is what having a good eye is all about.
The same applies to a club, since it’s still a relationship between a man and a woman. Once you can recognize someone who truly likes you, an allowance is still necessary, but the amount becomes less important.
If she genuinely likes you, even if she’s an extremely popular woman, what other papas offer may no longer matter to her.
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If you lower the allowance partway through, of course she’ll be disappointed.
If that was the arrangement from the very first date, then at least you’ve learned that many women can’t accept an adult relationship unless your value to them is worth more than ¥70,000. It was good that you tried the experiment.
Going forward, you’ll want to be more careful. Haven’t you realized that with women you absolutely want to date, you won’t be able to continue seeing them unless you keep things the way they were before?
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Rejected by three in a row
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Well, that makes four, I guess (lol).
If they liked you, they’d probably keep you as a backup at least...
Your only option now is to increase the allowance!
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First of all, I think you need to correct a fundamental misunderstanding.
There are currently more than 4,000 male members, and over 10,000 in total if you count cumulative membership. The basic mistake is assuming that ¥50,000 is common just because you saw comments from a handful of Q&A respondents among all those members.
Even if Universe Club has many ordinary men who offer low allowances, thinking that a ¥50,000 allowance is common is a serious misunderstanding.
Unlike dating apps, the men who usually use dating clubs are those who can afford the membership fee and setup fee without it affecting their finances. Men who feel those costs are a waste would probably use apps or similar services where they can contact women indiscriminately for around ¥10,000 a month.
If even that ¥10,000 monthly fee affects their finances, they’ll use cheaper dating sites—or free services.
With that in mind, many men who use dating clubs, like you, probably also think it’s better for the allowance to be higher than what they’d get through an app.
In the first place, you should understand that the people answering the Q&A questions probably have special abilities that ordinary male members don’t. So copying them isn’t going to work.
Trying to imitate someone just because they said something, then failing—that’s a very common amateur mistake.
Are you perhaps a salaried office worker?
It reminds me of people who see others making money from stocks and decide to try it themselves, only to lose money because, for some reason, it doesn’t work out for them.
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I’d go with 3.
I also considered something close to 1, but I don’t think “being hit with an outrageous demand” is the right way to put it.
Personally, I also don’t understand why class is being brought up here. I think it’s fair to say that the allowance a woman wants and her class are unrelated.
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